Appointment Process

WIT84 said:
My DD received a letter yesterday confirming she is qualified and that those applicants will be added to the National Waiting List (NWL). She has a competitive nomination from our MOC.

We realize this year USMA admissions is handling the process differently than in the past. So is it correct that qualified applicants with the exception of the select few who have received LOA’s will be listed on the NWL?

Are all of the candidates on the NWL “racked and stacked” prior to the issuing appointments ?

Realizing there are no set quotas, how does the selection of women and diversity candidates work in this model?

Any help you can provide to educate us on how this portion of the process works is greatly appreciated.
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Not seeing the letter that your DD received, I'll just have to assume that she was not the vacancy winner for her MOC since it says that she is on the NWL.
All 3Q'd non-vacancy winners of MOC noms go on the NWL.

The NWL is ranked top to bottom by WCS.
The first 150 to come off the NWL are the top 150 by WCS. These are almost always those with LOAs. LOAs don't necessarily win vacancy slots so therefore if they don't get the MOC slot, they go on the NWL too.

To fill the rest of the class, WP can select candidates from the NWL with non Congressional noms as long as they maintain a ratio of 3:1 of Congressional noms to Service connected noms. AND they can do this without regard to the WCS. This way of choosing the rest of the class ( the 3:1 ratio) helps WP (since not bound by WCS) choose candidates to help meet their class composition goals for scholars, athletes, leaders, minorities, soldiers, etc.

Does that answer your questions?
 
Buff81

Does still apply this year with no rolling admissions and very few LOAs?

Push Hard, Press Forward
 
hmza said:
DS has Pres. nom (retired), and congressional nom. Have no idea if he is principal on congressional slate as congresswoman retired and said she would not be available to make calls as in previous years. As for senators, DS did not make one senator's slate and the other senator will not tell us yea or nay even though DS has been in contact with senatorial staffer that was in charge. We are hoping he will be getting a call in 10 days or so :confused: but that is probably just wishful thinking!:smile:
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This process seems so much more competetive now.

My son tried for nominations in Northern VA.

Our Congressman had about 130 applicants - no nom.
Senator 1: immediately sent my son a nice "it's really competitive, don't forget about seeking ROTC scholarships" letter - no nom.
Senator 2: My son made the cut of 54 out of 750 for an interview - no nom.

He has a Presidential nom based on my and my wife's service.

His record and achievements completely blow away the ones I had and I received multiple congressional noms (yes, living in Maine helped!) and graduated top 15% of my USMA class.

Times.... they are a changin'.

He shall wait and see. He received a 4 yr ROTC scholarship to Virginia Tech so he has a decent fallback.
 
tug_boat said:
Does still apply this year with no rolling admissions and very few LOAs?

Push Hard, Press Forward
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Yes - it always applies since it is law per Title X of the US Code.

I don't know exactly how many LOAs went out this year but that is really besides the point.
The first 150 off the NWL must be the candidates with the top 150 WCSs.
After the first 150, the rest will be appointed in a ratio of 3 Congressional noms to 1 Service-Connected nom - without regard to WCS.
 
Buff 81,

The first paragrpah from the letter " We have received all your application information and the Admissions Committee had qualified your file. West Point has eliminated the rolling admissions process for this cycle. As such, all qualified candidates are placed on a National Waiting List until appointments are made".

We live in a highly competitive district in North TX, and our congressman did not determine a prinicipal nominee, he offered 7 candidates competitive nominations. My DD was fortunate to be one of the 7 (and the only female)

Thank you for the explanation.
 
buff81 said:
Not seeing the letter that your DD received, I'll just have to assume that she was not the vacancy winner for her MOC since it says that she is on the NWL.
All 3Q'd non-vacancy winners of MOC noms go on the NWL.
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This isn't necessarily true because I received the same letter a few months ago before even going to my nomination interview. This is just a letter from WP that states that they have acknowledged your qualifications in the 3 areas, and that no matter what happens regarding your nomination you have a spot on the NWL waiting for you if you do not win the vacancy.
 
Is it a good assumption that an LOE is a sign of a very high WCS and therefore a LOE holder has a good shot of being selected off the NWL if not a MOC slate winner?
 
goaltoserve said:
Is it a good assumption that an LOE is a sign of a very high WCS and therefore a LOE holder has a good shot of being selected off the NWL if not a MOC slate winner?
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I think all candidates with LOEs would love too assume that they are on top of the NWL if they do not get chosen from an MOCs slate but LOEs were given to candidates that West Point looked at favorably at that time. Circumstances may have changed since receiving ones LOE... hopefully for the good. The seventh semester grades could help many. In DS very competive high school he was able to move up 10 spaces in class rank with his unweighted gpa improving by just .03! DS made sure to have his 7th semester transcript overnighted to admissions just in case it improves his WCS. DS does have an LOE but we caution him to not rest on his laurels.
 
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