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I was not at all intimating that Army "won" the March on. My preference is for the neat crisp lines of Army and while our mascot may be a mule yours acted like a Jacka**. Navy won the game again (yawn). I concede that was the most important part of December 11, 2010.
 
I'll try to quote another Navy parent's comment from the USNA listserve:

"West Point Cadets know how to march and do it extremely well

NAVY Midshipmen win football games ! "


:director:Go NAVY
 
KNP said:
I was not at all intimating that Army "won" the March on. My preference is for the neat crisp lines of Army and while our mascot may be a mule yours acted like a Jacka**. Navy won the game again (yawn). I concede that was the most important part of December 11, 2010.
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Everybody here needs to lighten up. Trust me -The Navy goat mascot having fun with the Cadets is mild compared to some of the Army/Navy pranks that both WP and USNA have pulled off in the past.
 
rotorhd said:
Everybody here needs to lighten up. Trust me -The Navy goat mascot having fun with the Cadets is mild compared to some of the Army/Navy pranks that both WP and USNA have pulled off in the past.
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Fact. Professionalism is suspended the week prior to Army Navy and is reinstated the day after at BOTH academies. :wink:

But seriously, both academies try to have fun and "attack" each other. I honestly didn't see anything wrong.
 
I'm glad Navy wins. It's good for them to be able to do one thing better than West Point.
 
1st Downs: Navy 16, Army 20
Total Yards: Navy 326, Army 337
Rushing Yards: Navy 140, Army 209
Time of Possession: Navy 26:33, Army 33:14
Turnovers: Navy 4, Army 2

ARMY led in most all of the game stats .....except in total points scored, of course.:rolleyes:
 
greeneagle5 said:
1st Downs: Navy 16, Army 20
Total Yards: Navy 326, Army 337
Rushing Yards: Navy 140, Army 209
Time of Possession: Navy 26:33, Army 33:14
Turnovers: Navy 4, Army 2

ARMY led in most all of the game stats .....except in total points scored, of course.:rolleyes:
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That's called football. One long pass and one fumble return makes all the difference.
 
greeneagle5 said:
1st Downs: Navy 16, Army 20
Total Yards: Navy 326, Army 337
Rushing Yards: Navy 140, Army 209
Time of Possession: Navy 26:33, Army 33:14
Turnovers: Navy 4, Army 2

ARMY led in most all of the game stats .....except in total points scored, of course.:rolleyes:
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Back the clock up to Navy's last score. A lot of Army's statistics came in their last six minutes where Navy was in their prevent defense and just letting Army run out the clock. Time of possession was basically the same. Something like a half dozen first downs, 9 of ll of Steelman's passes for over 100 yards and over a third of their total offense (Navy 326 and Army 206 total yardage at this point). It wasn't nearly as close as the overall statistics would allow you to believe. Navy's fumbles gave Army 14 of their 17 points and the reciprocal was only 7 points. Withouth the fumbles, Army would still not have scored a touchdown in four years and the score would have been 24-3.
 
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Mongo said:
Back the clock up to Navy's last score. A lot of Army's statistics came in their last six minutes where Navy was in their prevent defense and just letting Army run out the clock. Time of possession was basically the same. Something like a half dozen first downs, 9 of ll of Steelman's passes for over 100 yards and over a third of their total offense (Navy 326 and Army 206 total yardage at this point). It wasn't nearly as close as the overall statistics would allow you to believe. Navy's fumbles gave Army 14 of their 17 points and the reciprocal was only 7 points. Withouth the fumbles, Army would still not have scored a touchdown in four years and the score would have been 24-3.
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If they had scored the last TD on the ground I would agree, but Steelman passed against a pass defense and with one more completion would have been one score down with a chance for an onside kick. (I realize there wasn't enough time, but another minute or so and it would have been possible)

Also, take away one Army fumble and the 77 yard pass play and the score is 17-17. It is what it is. Army had the edge in the second half, but the fumble return effectively ended the game at half-time.
 
Mongo said:
Back the clock up to Navy's last score. A lot of Army's statistics came in their last six minutes where Navy was in their prevent defense and just letting Army run out the clock. Time of possession was basically the same. Something like a half dozen first downs, 9 of ll of Steelman's passes for over 100 yards and over a third of their total offense (Navy 326 and Army 206 total yardage at this point). It wasn't nearly as close as the overall statistics would allow you to believe. Navy's fumbles gave Army 14 of their 17 points and the reciprocal was only 7 points. Withouth the fumbles, Army would still not have scored a touchdown in four years and the score would have been 24-3.
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And if my aunt had wheels, she'd be a tea cart.

Your tenuous understanding of football is interesting. You've essentially said "If Army hadn't used their offense to move the ball down the field and scored those touchdowns, they wouldn't have scored a touchdown at all."

Those fumbles were caused by Army's defense making good hat-on-ball hits. The fumbles were not returned for touchdowns. Navy had every chance to stop the drives that came after each fumble. They didn't. Making up scenarios to try to take something away from Army is sad.
 
scoutpilot said:
And if my aunt had wheels, she'd be a tea cart.

Your tenuous understanding of football is interesting. You've essentially said "If Army hadn't used their offense to move the ball down the field and scored those touchdowns, they wouldn't have scored a touchdown at all."

Those fumbles were caused by Army's defense making good hat-on-ball hits. The fumbles were not returned for touchdowns. Navy had every chance to stop the drives that came after each fumble. They didn't. Making up scenarios to try to take something away from Army is sad.
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I was commenting exclusively on the high percentage of the Army offense that occured AFTER Navy's last touchdown, making the score 31-10, and essentially putting the game away. Just presenting another perspective on the 'equal statistics' theory.

In re the fumbles, I was simply pointing out that there were other fumbles than the 98 yard return which, incidentially, also was a good helmet-on-ball hit.

And yes, several TDs and one field goal were indeed scored off fumbles. So the 98 return fumble does not stand alone as THE game defining event. It was a thing of beauty though.

Nothing sad about the whole thing at all. Just a post game football discussion. I guess Army fans really only want to talk about lame flyovers, disrespectful mascots, and marching ability. Go at it. Especially the ones witnessing their first few games who haven't figured out the overall significance of all the parts that go into making up the whole.
 
WAMom68 said:
Good one! Thanks for sharing AF.
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That was a great video AF put up! Yet I'm somewhat amazed my little video was given the :
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lol

Folks, move to "Reality-ville" lol
 
Mongo said:
I guess Army fans really only want to talk about lame flyovers, disrespectful mascots, and marching ability. Go at it. Especially the ones witnessing their first few games who haven't figured out the overall significance of all the parts that go into making up the whole.
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Should we talk about "alumni slush funds" and "lifted standards" instead? Ouch! :yllol::shake::yllol:
 
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