Army ROTC majors

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  1. USA

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    When you are informed of your scholarship, the papers say what type of scholarship and major. If it says technical major, what majors would fall into that category. I can't find a list anywhere online or on any papers I've received.
     
  2. aglages

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    When I got my letter informing me of my scholarship, it did say "Indicated Major: Engineering" . So that seems to me that they do indicate the type of major.
     
  4. awhin3

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    I am not sure, but I know that as an international studies major I am referred to as a generalist.
     
  5. aglages

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    I know they list the "indicated" major, but what does the following (from the OP) mean? (emphasis is mine)

     
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    Ohh okay. Sorry, I guess I misunderstood the question.
     
  7. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Keep in mind, that unlike some of the other services there is no difference in an Army scholarship between academic disciplines. What major did you indicate on your application? The Army is pushing for the hard science majors (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics, STEMS). You obviously put down one of those majors as your intended majors. Make sure that if you plan to change your major that you let your PMS know first. According to the offer letter you may loose your scholarship if you change majors without prior authorization. Will your PMS take your scholarship away? I don't know. If you still need a list of what falls under that discipline I can see if I can find the reg. Shoot me a message if you want that info.
     
  8. aglages

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    Perhaps you can enlighten all of us on the different types of scholarships the Army is offering and what regs cover which "discipline"? Thanks!
     
  9. USA

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    clarksonarmy I will definitely send you a message! thank you, its greatly appreciated!!
     
  10. Jcleppe

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    I originally had Civil Engineering as my major when I received the scholarship. At the end of my freshman year I changed to History/Pre Law. I informed my PMS and the only issue was that I needed to fill out a new 104R form and I needed to complete the major in the original 4 years. There have been a few cadets at our school that have changed majors and none ran into any difficulties doing so. My brother is applying for a scholarship and has been told by all the PMS he has talked with that the Major he selects is not a deciding factor in receiving a scholarship. He is declaring Political Science.
     
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    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    found it, or at least an older list of the Academic discipline Mixes (ADMs). It is in the application (or at least the 2006 one I'm looking at). It is also in Cadet Command pamphlet 145-1, appendix E. Hope that helps.

    Jcleppe is right. Here at Clarkson we have plenty of cadets who realize that engineering is a little more than they expected. We have a business/engineering major that many of them transfer to. Just need to make sure the PMS OK's it.
     
  12. WinterHater

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    I dont mean to revive an outdated thread, but I could use some help on this very same topic. I am having trouble locating either of these documents online. Can someone please provide me with a link or point me in the right direction? I can find the CC pamphlet but not the appendix.
     
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    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    That is what I needed. Thank you for taking the time to post the link. :thumb:
     
  15. ulysses

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    Must AROTC freshmen declare a major?

    My DS just started as a freshman in his Army ROTC program. He had hoped to remain "undeclared" and select his major in his sophomore year; however his MS1 Instructor (and ROO) indicated that he MUST select a major and document it on the 104R form (which lays out his 4-year academic program). Is there a specific ROTC regulation requiring this? If so, what's the rationale ... bearing in mind that West Point does not require its cadets to declare their majors until their sophomore year? Note this apparent rule applies to both scholarship and non-scholarship students in DS's detachment.
     
  16. dunninla

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    I suppose he can just pick the major he's most interested in at this time... let's call it Sociology.

    When he knows he prefers, say, Economics, he will simply submit a new form at that time show that curriculum and his progress toward that degree.

    Couple of considerations:

    1) Switching Academic Discipline Mix (ADM) Category http://www.uccs.edu/~armyrotc/docs/ADM List.doc from a higher number to a lower number will be a problem starting with this year's scholarship awardees (YG16), but not for those freshmen entering right now (YG15)

    2) If switching majors requires and extra semester or two semesters, this can complicate matters and so should be discussed with Cadre ahead of time. Per Clarkson's post of earlier this week, you would be called a "Completion Cadet" after your MSIV year, and monitored during your extra semester/s until you commission. It's up to the Army whether to continue paying your tuition/books/stipend in your extra semester/s.
     
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  17. Aglahad

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    Keep in mind science/engineering majors get more points the OML

    Form what I saw there wasn't really a big deal in changing a major as well as declaring one. Just fill out a new 104-R and make sure you graduate on time.
     
  18. Pima

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    ulysses,

    The rationale is the Army must do long term strategic planning for manpower. They don't want 100% of the class of 15 to be econ majors or history majors.

    The way the system works in the military is trickle down, not trickle up. In other words, new commissioned officers will be assigned to careers because there is a manpower need within the AD world.

    WP is not AROTC, every cadet regardless of their degree will have the exact same core courses during their 4 yrs there at WP. It is their electives that track them for their major. AROTC poli-sci majors at USC will not have the same core courses as the TAMU cadet in EE.

    As aglahad stated it will come down to OML when branching. Tech fields get an edge.

    Dunninla, also illustrated the importance of declaring a major. The Army is expecting your child to be commissioned in 2015. If they bop around between majors over the next 2 yrs, that may result in graduating in 16, and OBTW, that messes with their manpower needs for 15 and 16.

    Look at the HORRIBLE AROTC interview thread. Here to me and many is a solid piece of advice for AROTC cadets

    Again, it is a trickle down aspect. It is becoming incredibly competitive within each branch and majors in college play into their planning.

    No offense, but why take an issue about the major?
     
  19. Jcleppe

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    Just curious, where have you read or heard that switching majors from a higher Mix number to a lower will be an issue. My son has a friend applying this year and might be interested in this information.
     
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    My son had a couple cadets in his battalion that started their first year with a General Studies Major, they switched to more specialized major their sophomore year, it was not a problem once they filled out the 104R and it was shown they would graduate in 4 years. This might be an option for your son
     

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