My dad went to college. I didn't apply for the scholarship just to Duke. I applied to Army ROTC with a list of schools of interest to me and they told me I was awarded the scholarship to duke alone. I live in Tennessee.
Army ROTC scholarship getting accepted to college
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It appears from another poster ROTC does talk. I would get on the phone tomorrow and talk to the PMS. Ask her what she thinks are your true chances of admissions, tell her to be brutally honest. Many times they will try to save candidates feelings and sugar coat.
If she says from all of the candidates that were awarded, or who have applied for scholarships, you are fine, than accept her word. If she says you are on the cusp IHO, than you should be looking into Plan B.
Good Luck.
If she says from all of the candidates that were awarded, or who have applied for scholarships, you are fine, than accept her word. If she says you are on the cusp IHO, than you should be looking into Plan B.
Good Luck.
This Volunteer surely wishes you the best. I think the first thing you need to decide is how badly you want ROTC. If ROTC is simply a way to pay for Duke, then follow pima's advice and wait. Would you do ROTC at Vandy or UT (and I'm not talking about TX)? If ROTC is really important to you, there are other folks on this forum that can advise you better than I about how to proceed.
I just remember it not being that big a deal to transfer my son's scholarship from GA Tech to Big 10 public. The chronology was something like this:
-Was rejected from the Ivies, U of Chi, and Stanford.
-Received Rotary exchange in Taiwan.
-Was rejected for any NROTC scholarship. 1st choice was Cal Berkeley where he had been accepted. Berkeley was his Duke.
-Licked his rejection wounds, deferred admission to a number of schools (including Vandy).
-Began to realize that he never really cared about Princeton or Stanford. Moreover, he realized they aren't worth the money for Engineering. He cared about keeping up with or besting the other high achievers at his school. All he was doing was looking for validation. A monumental waste of time. I would caution you not make the same mistake. If you are in a private school in TN, I'll bet you're not the only Duke applicant from your school. Being in a public school will help your chances at Duke, the more free lunches served, the better. (Sorry to be crass, but those are huge factors at the elites.)
-He applied for AROTC 4 yr. at the deferred schools.
-While in Taiwan he got word of AROTC 4 yr only to GA Tech. Couldn't believe it. By this time, he was convinced that BIG 10 U was really the place for him.
-Immediately contacted the battalion at Big 10 U, with whom he never had any communication. He, naively, assumed he was so great that his resume would speak for itself.(He had done everything on his own and knew nothing about this or any other forum to seek advice.) Big 10 U battalion had never really looked at his file. He contacted their admissions, where they knew him well.
-Battalion looked at his file, liked what they saw and the wheels started moving, starting with paperwork to transfer. The battalion was very helpful and it appeared to be their decision alone.
IMHO, he made it work because: 1)He was totally qualified. 2)He wanted to study Chem Eng. There are very few engineers in his battalion. 3)Doing everything from 14 time zones away, he showed that he really wanted it.
Reporting for PT at 6AM, surrounded by a bunch of in-staters who were rejected for scholarships, it took him about two seconds to realize how naive he had been and how lucky he is. None of it would have happened if he didn't persist.
Based on his experience, if you really want ROTC then let the battalion and admission folks at your backup school know it.
Best of luck.
I just remember it not being that big a deal to transfer my son's scholarship from GA Tech to Big 10 public. The chronology was something like this:
-Was rejected from the Ivies, U of Chi, and Stanford.
-Received Rotary exchange in Taiwan.
-Was rejected for any NROTC scholarship. 1st choice was Cal Berkeley where he had been accepted. Berkeley was his Duke.
-Licked his rejection wounds, deferred admission to a number of schools (including Vandy).
-Began to realize that he never really cared about Princeton or Stanford. Moreover, he realized they aren't worth the money for Engineering. He cared about keeping up with or besting the other high achievers at his school. All he was doing was looking for validation. A monumental waste of time. I would caution you not make the same mistake. If you are in a private school in TN, I'll bet you're not the only Duke applicant from your school. Being in a public school will help your chances at Duke, the more free lunches served, the better. (Sorry to be crass, but those are huge factors at the elites.)
-He applied for AROTC 4 yr. at the deferred schools.
-While in Taiwan he got word of AROTC 4 yr only to GA Tech. Couldn't believe it. By this time, he was convinced that BIG 10 U was really the place for him.
-Immediately contacted the battalion at Big 10 U, with whom he never had any communication. He, naively, assumed he was so great that his resume would speak for itself.(He had done everything on his own and knew nothing about this or any other forum to seek advice.) Big 10 U battalion had never really looked at his file. He contacted their admissions, where they knew him well.
-Battalion looked at his file, liked what they saw and the wheels started moving, starting with paperwork to transfer. The battalion was very helpful and it appeared to be their decision alone.
IMHO, he made it work because: 1)He was totally qualified. 2)He wanted to study Chem Eng. There are very few engineers in his battalion. 3)Doing everything from 14 time zones away, he showed that he really wanted it.
Reporting for PT at 6AM, surrounded by a bunch of in-staters who were rejected for scholarships, it took him about two seconds to realize how naive he had been and how lucky he is. None of it would have happened if he didn't persist.
Based on his experience, if you really want ROTC then let the battalion and admission folks at your backup school know it.
Best of luck.
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cb is so right, with persistence comes rewards.
The path you enter may not be the one you envisioned, but it really isn't so much how you get there, but in the end you do get there.
One of the hardest things for a HS SR to do is to not get caught up in the hype.
I got a scholarship...so that means "I will be an officer"
I got into X school...so that means "I will graduate from there"
The fastest way IMPO to lose the scholarship is to hate the school. Not saying apbraves doesn't like Duke, just saying in general, many posters will say they are attending a college because of financial reasons.
Motivation has to be there, and that motivation will come from you wanting to be there.
AROTC and NROTC are known to offer transferring the scholarship if there are openings. Remember, 95% of SA candidates will apply for ROTC scholarships, many of them will throw the scholarship back in the pool once they receive their appointment.
Some ROTC candidates will also receive merit money from their colleges, and will opt to enroll in ROTC, not take the scholarship because they have merit money from the school. Better the stats, usually translates into the more merit money. When our DS graduated, he and another student had scholarships, the other student through his scholarship back because Duke gave him a free ride, including room and board. He will be commissioned this May, but because he didn't contract as a freshman he had 2 yrs before he really had to make a decision.
These are things people forget about while they are in the process, however they will impact many people.
A final note, I find it interesting that what always happens is being illustrated right now. Candidate with a scholarship, but doesn't know if they will get in, and the opposite, a candidate that is admitted, but waiting to see if they get a scholarship.
Remember, for AROTC schools are allotted X amt of scholarships for HS candidates, that means you will have some of each.
apbraves if you want Duke you will get there, maybe this yr, maybe next yr, but you will get there if you are motivated. If it is really your back up than do yourself at least the favor of trying to find out how the transfer of scholarships work. Marist and Clarkson are 2 very good sources of info for this if you don't want to talk to anyone you are personally connected with currently.
zl677 I am not in any way shape or form inferring you will not get a scholarship. To get ED from Duke is a feather in your cap. I am sure you are a strong candidate so good luck.
The path you enter may not be the one you envisioned, but it really isn't so much how you get there, but in the end you do get there.
One of the hardest things for a HS SR to do is to not get caught up in the hype.
I got a scholarship...so that means "I will be an officer"
I got into X school...so that means "I will graduate from there"
The fastest way IMPO to lose the scholarship is to hate the school. Not saying apbraves doesn't like Duke, just saying in general, many posters will say they are attending a college because of financial reasons.
Motivation has to be there, and that motivation will come from you wanting to be there.
AROTC and NROTC are known to offer transferring the scholarship if there are openings. Remember, 95% of SA candidates will apply for ROTC scholarships, many of them will throw the scholarship back in the pool once they receive their appointment.
Some ROTC candidates will also receive merit money from their colleges, and will opt to enroll in ROTC, not take the scholarship because they have merit money from the school. Better the stats, usually translates into the more merit money. When our DS graduated, he and another student had scholarships, the other student through his scholarship back because Duke gave him a free ride, including room and board. He will be commissioned this May, but because he didn't contract as a freshman he had 2 yrs before he really had to make a decision.
These are things people forget about while they are in the process, however they will impact many people.
A final note, I find it interesting that what always happens is being illustrated right now. Candidate with a scholarship, but doesn't know if they will get in, and the opposite, a candidate that is admitted, but waiting to see if they get a scholarship.
Remember, for AROTC schools are allotted X amt of scholarships for HS candidates, that means you will have some of each.
apbraves if you want Duke you will get there, maybe this yr, maybe next yr, but you will get there if you are motivated. If it is really your back up than do yourself at least the favor of trying to find out how the transfer of scholarships work. Marist and Clarkson are 2 very good sources of info for this if you don't want to talk to anyone you are personally connected with currently.
zl677 I am not in any way shape or form inferring you will not get a scholarship. To get ED from Duke is a feather in your cap. I am sure you are a strong candidate so good luck.