Army ROTC Scholarship

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  1. Mills668

    Mills668 Member

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    I was not selected for the first board and as a result, I am being rolled into the next board in January. I'm trying to increase my rank on the Order of Merit List. I am submitting my latest transcript (my GPA will be a little over a 3.5) and I am going to retake the physical fitness assessment (I maxed everything out the last time but I wanna break 6:00 on the run). I'm not retaking any standardized tests (my ACT score is a 31). Are there any other ways for me to get ranked higher on the OML? I am considering changing my list of schools. Would this help? For the November board, I listed my top choice as UCLA; however, I just got into one of safety schools. Should I rank that as my top choice instead?

    If I were to change my list of preference for schools and I got a scholarship to my safety school, but I also got into UCLA, would I be able to transfer the scholarship from my safety school to UCLA?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. Strength and Honor

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    List your top choice as your top choice, yes you can TRY to transfer the scholarship to UCLA but there's no guarantee. I think your best bet is to contact UCLA's cadre and let them know how interested and motivated you are. It might help swing the odds in your favor if they can match a face to a name.
     
  3. ABF

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    Can you retake the PFT and upload a new score at this point in the game?
     
  4. Packer

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    Once boarded, I believe the only things you can do is increase yours ACT/SAT scores and change your school choices. New activities, pft, grades, etc are not considered.
     
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    +1, retaking the SAT/ACT is your best bet to improve. However, I think you'll certainly get a scholarship with a 3.5/31 as long as your ECs and physical are good.
     
  6. NavyNurseApplicant

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    Is your safety school more or less expensive than UCLA? That may make it harder to transfer. And yes, I'm sure the cadre would like to meet you; however, as UCLA is a public school, it will in no way affect admission. I'm not sure if that's what StrengthandHonor meant by "swing the odds in your favor."
    Side note, go Bruin Battalion!
     
  7. Strength and Honor

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    It won't help him get admitted, but from my experience knowing the cadre at the school you want to go to can only help! :thumb:
     
  8. DeskJockey

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    I think it may be a good idea for you to rank your safety school(s) above UCLA at this point. I don't know if that will make it more likely that you will get a scholarship, but it will definitely make it more likely that you will get a scholarship that you can use. Realistically, your odds of being admitted to UCLA are not high. That isn't a knock on you; it is simply a fact that UCLA is one of the most highly-competitive universities in the nation, and many applicants with near perfect grades and test scores are not going to get in.

    For the same reason, I think you would have a better than average chance of transferring a scholarship award from another battalion to UCLA in the event that you do get in. There are relatively few Army ROTC scholarship candidates who can gain admittance to UCLA (and it is almost impossible for someone from out-of-state), so they are more likely to have room for scholarship transfers. And if that doesn't work out, you may still be able to afford UCLA on your own if you are a California resident.
     
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    All admissions Depts that use a "holistic admissions" process leave room for non-quantified criteria. That could be economic background, geography, life struggles overcome, etc. It could also be the PMS developing a relationship with an admissions officer whose husband is/was active duty military (hint). UCLA is not immune to these influences for a candidate that is otherwise qualified for admission but in on the bubble, or on the wait list. The only criterion UCLA nor any other UC school may NOT overtly use in the admissions department is race, after the Bakke decision over twenty years ago.
     
  10. UndeadPoet

    UndeadPoet DS - AROTC/AFROTC Winner

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    First Board totals?

    Does anyone know how many scholarships (4yr & 3yr) were offered at the first AROTC board?
     
  11. Strength and Honor

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    Usually it's around 250, and I think everyone from the first board (at least that I've seen) got 4-yrs to their top 3 schools.
     
  12. UndeadPoet

    UndeadPoet DS - AROTC/AFROTC Winner

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    Thanks S&H. Clarkson, can you confirm or deny any numbers for first board?
     
  13. Pima

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    Undead,

    I mean this with kindness, but why does it matter?

    Just saying the numbers awarded should be placed into perspective since the scholarship is tied to the college too.

    I.E. Assume 250 were awarded, but out of that 0 were awarded to your college choices.

    Does it matter at all to you that 250 people have heard they got a scholarship when none of them are your true competition?

    The question I think you need to be looking at, is not numbers, but percentages. awarded. I.E. 10% across the board for each det., or a Whole Candidate Score and 10% awarded nationally, thus one det could have 50% filled, and another 0%.
     
  14. UndeadPoet

    UndeadPoet DS - AROTC/AFROTC Winner

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    Pima,

    Fair points, and good food for thought, thanks. I wasn't looking at it from a "competition" standpoint (at least at this juncture :smile:), but rather from a "trying to figure out how many AROTC scholarships may be awarded this year relative to previous years (due to sequestration, budget, etc.). Anecdotal, sorry.

    Thanks and Merry Christmas (or Happy Holidays) to all!

    UdP
     
  15. Pima

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    Will the sequestration impact? Yes.

    Can you make a correlation from last yrs budget to this yr? Can you assume that because the DoD cuts 10% of the budget, that ROTC will only be cut by 10% too?

    There is a limited pot of money, and they could offer more scholarships IS, and less OOS/Private, keeping the numbers at the same level. However, if you don't want to attend your IS, than how many scholarships offered again matters for naught.

    In short if you looking for a chance, I would say your odds are better than if you didn't apply.

    I believe AROTC is like AF/NROTC, @ 20% or less of all applicants are awarded a scholarship, just in case you are looking at an odds/competition perspective only.
     
  16. UndeadPoet

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    Thank you again Pima.
     
  17. Pima

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    Undead,

    You will find that some long time posters like me, (kinnem, Jcleppe, Dunninla, goalie, clarkson, marist, etc) do not like to do the chance me route, because in the end it is really a jigsaw puzzle being made every yr., and nobody knows what the picture will look like as they are doing the puzzle.

    We have been here for quite sometime, and inevitably every yr., posters will ask generalized questions that are basically tied to chances.
    ~~~ I.E their academic stats, ECs, school lists.

    The 1st yr here as a poster you look and say WOW great stats, you look like a match. The OP feels great. However, the scholarships roll out and they get the TWE... The at this time we are unable letter. Yet, at the same time another poster has lower stats, and people say have plan B,C and D in place, but they get the.... Congrats you have been awarded....

    We are not trying to be vague at all. We are staying silent on chacnes or illustrating the nuances of the scholarship process to educate the poster why we can't really give an answer.

    Nobody here sits on any board, and if they did they would never tell you because that info is tightly held, and by releasing it publicly on a forum like this they may be placing their career in jeopardy.

    Best of luck.

    Merry Christmas. May the New Year be the best you have enjoyed!
     
  18. UndeadPoet

    UndeadPoet DS - AROTC/AFROTC Winner

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    Pima,

    Fair enough. I completely get where you are coming from. Any and all info and opinions, when given, are greatly appreciated. I am certainly "mystified" by the process thus far, and you are exactly right - some I get, and some I don't.

    Thanks to all for sharing your experiences.

    Merry Christmas (and Happy Holidays) to all!

    UdP
     
  19. mfleisher1

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    A family friend of ours is a LTC and a part of the cadre at Northwestern (in Illinois) and he told us that only 262 first board offers were made out of over 20,000 applicants.

    He didn't say how many were 4-years and how many were 3-years
     
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