AROTC 2/3 yr scholarship

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  1. srqslr

    srqslr New Member

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    My DS received a 4 yr AROTC scholarship last year. Originally he accepted the scholarship but then he turned it down in July of 2011, letting both the university and Cadet Command know of his decision. My son has changed his mind and would like to join AROTC at the same university and compete for a 2 or 3 yr scholarship. My question is: is he still able to compete for a scholarship or because he had one and turned it down, he would be ineligible to compete for another one?
     
  2. Jcleppe

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    What would happen is that he would just sign up for ROTC classes and join the battalion at the school he will be attending. There is no application process for the 3 or 3 year scholarship. He will need to do his best, have goos grades, a high APFT, and be active in the battalion. There will be a lot of non scholarship cadets that will be doing the same thing. If money is available it the brigade and battalion the PMS may offer scholarships to certain cadets that are at the top of the list, the offer is made by the PMS, there is no formal application other then your son letting the PMS know he is committed and would like to be considered if there is the opportunity for a scholarship.

    Having turned down the scholarship offer won't have an effect on his ability to compete for a campus scholarship.
     
  3. EDelahanty

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    May have to take Military Science 1 and 2 simultaneously in his sophomore year
     
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    srqslr New Member

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    Thanks for the replies. That is pretty much what we thought, but we were not sure about how the turn down would factor in. Thanks.
     
  5. BarrettaM59

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    AROTC interview and AD3

    My DS is being offered the AD3 to his first choice college. I understand that this is standard when an applicant does not receive the 4 year and the college was your first choice.

    He also had his interview at this college. He apparently did not do well on the interview. He received a 140. Does anyone know if this is too low to receive a 4 year scholarship?

    I spoke with the new ROO at the college and he could not account for the low score. He should have received 120 points on the yes or no question. This means he only received 20 points from the subjuctive part of the interview. When I had an alternative school look at his file, they said that the interview was done by the PMS Col. that was at LDAC when we visited the college. The actual interview was done by a SFC.

    I was not happy when I spoke with the new ROO. I am not sure if the original SFC lost the application and they were too embarrassed to admitt it.

    The moral of the story is be careful who you choose as your first choice college on the ROTC form.
     
  6. EDelahanty

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    Hi, BarettaM59:

    Some comments:

    1) If you've been following these threads you'll realize that a three year scholarship this year is a great achievement. This type of scholarship is becoming much more prevalent than in the past.

    2) The fact that it is to your son's first choice school is also great. It means he can avoid the need to make tough choices or risk the uncertainty of the Cadet Command transfer process. Many other people wish they had what you consider to be a problem.

    3) I would caution you to halt your investigation into the interview and scoring process. You've speculated without evidence that an SFC was incompetent or unethical regarding your son, and it looks like you've suggested this to the ROO. Your son will be treated as an individual independent of you by the cadre but excessive parental interference won't help the situation and will not be welcome.

    4) If your son did get a scholarship despite a low interview score it means that he had terrific qualifications otherwise and perhaps that the result of the interview was discounted because it had been conducted by an SFC and not an officer.

    5) It may be possible to convert a three year scholarship to a 3 and a half year once your son is on campus though I would guess the odds are low. The only way I would see it is if a four year winner drops out very early on and your son performs in an outstanding manner from the beginning. However, I don't know if deconstructing the original award process to prove an injustice occurred will help.

    6) The moral of your story is correct of course, but not for the reasons you imply.
     
  7. laxmom8

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    How did you find out the interview score? I didn't know this was even possible. Not that it matters at this point and I don't think I would even ask for it. Just wondering if this is posted somewhere or if you had to inquire about it.
     
  8. Jcleppe

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    I'm with EDelahanty on this one.

    I would have to think the interview score was looked at and reviewed with some extra care by the Board. Not sure how you heard what the score was or if you saw a copy but I'm pretty sure you never saw what the board actually saw for their review. A lot of things could have happened. The original interview may have left parts blank until the PMS returned and sent in updated info. My son's original interview score was updated after he received a second ACT score.

    The reason I state the above is that according to a couple ROO's that post here, your son would not have even received a 3 year with a score of 140.

    I am sure questions were asked and info requested regarding the interview. Pushing the issue any further will not do you son much good. He is extremely lucky to have received a 3 year AD scholarship this year.

    Just a question, is the school out of state for you or a private, if either of these then the 3 year makes even better sense.
     

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