AROTC 3-Year scholarship

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  1. Chas3down

    Chas3down New Member

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    Hey, was just wondering what sort of PT score and Freshman GPA I should be aiming for so I have a solid chance at a 3-year scholarship starting fall 2014?

    Also, for freshman year, what sort of events would a non-scholarship student be missing? I hear more and more ROTC are going in without scholarships, so are they still able to participate in all the events?
     
  2. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    4.0 and 300+ on the PT test. Depends on the Battalion. At our Battalion scholarship or non scholarship you participate in most events. You will only be precluded from summer training that requires you to be contracted.
     
  3. Chas3down

    Chas3down New Member

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    Sigh, of coarse I am aiming for a 4.0 and 300 on PT test..

    But what would be a score that would give me a good chance to get a 3-year?
     
  4. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    Hey! This is a competition and the competition is even more intense with budget cuts. I think Clarkson gave you some good numbers to shoot for. But if you want to have a lower bar for some reason (like - I don't really want to put in that much effort), then try for 3.75 and 290. Feel better?
     
  5. Aglahad

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    "Sigh, of coarse I am aiming for a 4.0 and 300 on PT test..

    But what would be a score that would give me a good chance to get a 3-year"
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    :bang: :popcorn1:
     
  6. Jcleppe

    Jcleppe Member

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    There is an old joke:

    Two guys are in the woods, a Bear starts chasing them. The first guy yells "How are we gunna out run this Bear?" the second guy says "I don't have to out run the Bear, I just have to out run you!"

    That's basically how it works, Most of the non scholarship cadets will be competing for that 3 year scholarship. You will need to be out in front of most of them, it is a competition.

    Both of the non scholarship cadets that received a 3 year scholarship this year had 300 plus APFT scores and GPA's of 3.6 or higher.

    Granted every battalion is different and not all battalions will have cadets hitting that 300 mark their freshman year, but if you can come to school and hit that mark, you'll have a big advantage.

    Come to school prepared to do well, and you'll better your chances.
     
  7. goaliedad

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    There's an old joke about 2 hunters out in the woods who come upon an angry bear. The first one raises up his gun, takes aim and it misfires. The second hunter then does the same. He then turns back to the first hunter and asks, "Are you worried that you can't out run that bear?", to which the first hunter answers, "I'm not worried about outrunning the bear. I'm worried about outrunning you!"

    In your case, you don't know how many other scholarship hunters are out there or how fast they run, nor how many bears are chasing you down to kill your scholarship hopes. So the best you can do right now in preparing for the hunt is to be as fast and strong as possible, keeping in mind that the other hunters will be doing exactly the same (they could be lurking here as well).

    More importantly, the Army is not about being "good enough to get the job done" (that would be a GS employee), but being the best that you can be in every aspect of service.

    Worrying about what is "good enough" (looking over your shoulder to see if the bear is close) is not going to help you either.

    My apologies for those of you who couldn't bear (pun intended) my analogy.
     
  8. goaliedad

    goaliedad Parent

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    Darn you! You type too fast!
     
  9. dwestman

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    The information is included in your letter what you are expected to achieve in order for the 3 year scholarship to kick in for your second year. In short, it says maintain a 2.5 GPA in your freshman year; achieve a 3.0 in ROTC classes; pass the APFT; be recommended by the PMS; meet scholarship and med requirements at start of second year; and have no moral or civil incidents that require a waiver.

    So, I think those are the qualifications you need to move from your first year as a non-scholarship cadet to your second year under the scholarship, unless the above posts are suggesting that in order to receive PMS recommendation, you need to score off the charts as they suggest.
     
  10. EDelahanty

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    Here's one I bet you haven't heard. It seems there were these two Newfie hunters lost in the woods, when they trip over a bull moose...

    By the way, where did you learn that writing "Sigh" is an effective way of telling someone who provides the only possible correct answer to your question that he is wasting your time?
     
  11. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    That is what one needs to do to keep a scholarship once one has one. However, you would be among the poorer performers in the unit and well on your way to the reserves. To win a scholarship in school you need to score much much higher. Jcleppe gave an actual example.
     
  12. Jcleppe

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    I think the OP was referring to coming to school as a non scholarship cadet and then competing for a 3 year scholarship.

    Your information is correct for those that were awarded a 3 year AD Scholarship.
     
  13. dwestman

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    Thanks, I mis-read the original post thinking he had already been offered a 3-year. Also appreciate the comments about needing to do much more than the minimum to stand out and be sure to move on, even starting with a 3-year in hand. Reminding DSS to ramp up the training. Good thing he already is in the midst of rugby season.
     
  14. Marist College ROTC

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    Every cadet with a 3.2 freshmen GPA and 250 APFT score at Marist College has been offered a scholarship.
     

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