Pima
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Packer, you just showed your age, because I was not in the grandfather program for age. For me it was 21, end of subject. I say that because I recall when Reagan did this, for younguns, he tied 21 to federal funding for roads. If the state opted to keep it at 18, they received no funds.
Civic lesson for today is completed!
My point was/is don't think you can outsmart it. You can't. Nothing you will say or do will help you. The statement of:
Been there, done that; is true.
Most importantly to understand is this:
Your command, are AD members, THEY ARE NOT going to risk their careers, including promotions by playing blind or sweeping it under the rug to CYA. They have a career, a family, bills to pay. A future in the military.
They will toss you like a bad penny!
I stated earlier about how your actions impact you and your family. I am now illustrating how it impacts your command.
DS was fortunate to be an AD AF dependent. He saw even in HS through the AD gossip mill that it happened. Our priest on base (O4) got a DUI on a Sat., Sunday some other chaplain did the mass. Wed. he was gone. This was an O4 (major).
He understood the way the system worked before entering. That means he understood, the success of the cadre would be a part of the commander's performance and promotion review for their AD world, it would also be a factor in getting their next job. He got that if it was going to be protect DS and jeopardize commanders career, or throw DS out. DS was the option that the CC would elect.
Seriously, as a wife of an AD officer that served 20 yrs. Alcohol issues have been the big reason why many were separated from the military. It is not only underage drinking in ROTC, it is even AD.
If you want to do it, heck, while you are at it, do some spice too! In case you don't know yet, check out the SA forums and see how cadets who do spice are now being kicked out. (USMA has one http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=19701)
Civic lesson for today is completed!
My point was/is don't think you can outsmart it. You can't. Nothing you will say or do will help you. The statement of:
Been there, done that; is true.
Most importantly to understand is this:
Your command, are AD members, THEY ARE NOT going to risk their careers, including promotions by playing blind or sweeping it under the rug to CYA. They have a career, a family, bills to pay. A future in the military.
They will toss you like a bad penny!
I stated earlier about how your actions impact you and your family. I am now illustrating how it impacts your command.
DS was fortunate to be an AD AF dependent. He saw even in HS through the AD gossip mill that it happened. Our priest on base (O4) got a DUI on a Sat., Sunday some other chaplain did the mass. Wed. he was gone. This was an O4 (major).
He understood the way the system worked before entering. That means he understood, the success of the cadre would be a part of the commander's performance and promotion review for their AD world, it would also be a factor in getting their next job. He got that if it was going to be protect DS and jeopardize commanders career, or throw DS out. DS was the option that the CC would elect.
Seriously, as a wife of an AD officer that served 20 yrs. Alcohol issues have been the big reason why many were separated from the military. It is not only underage drinking in ROTC, it is even AD.
If you want to do it, heck, while you are at it, do some spice too! In case you don't know yet, check out the SA forums and see how cadets who do spice are now being kicked out. (USMA has one http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?t=19701)
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But I, like many of the 80's children, was a partier in high school and as a cops kid one of the biggest. Not bragging, just giving an idea of how damn stupid I was then. The teens now, just like us then, thought we knew it all and had the system down and life would just hand us everything - wrong answer
. The world is much harsher now, ROTC or not, there is no room for errors -- too much competition for too few opportunities, military or civilian. The party experience isn't worth it - I pray each incoming cadet understands this and doesn't become the next cautionary tale on the boards. Leaving soap box now....