Average CFA Scores

Proudpat they probably were there at the same time. But no being from Louisiana we like our air so thick you can cut it. But we will see how he does at Navy next week. He has at least been about to meet with his school officals and emailed his teachers to get some of the other things moving.
 
unfortunately, they don't register your CFA at AFA SLS due to the altitude (or so DS was told.) which was a shame, because after the summer and before school started and before he finished his application he broke his collar bone. DARN! and he had great scores there also... That was the only item left on his app. Moral: FINISH your CFA...don't wait!!! You would have thought we would have learned our lesson when older DS broke his ankle right before taking CFA!!

JROTC instructor had him try for excellent+ scores in relation to the Navy PRT. Only gives situps, pushups and run..... but it was a start. We knew after recovering from a shattered collarbone, any amount of pullup was a miracle, so he just did the best he could on that and the rest.

Navy prt: http://www.navy-prt.com/malestandard/malestandard.html
 
Well I guess they did the CFA today at NASS. I was very surprised at my DS's mile time. He was only able to get a 7:25 at Air Force. Here are his scores from today.

BB throw 63
Pull Ups 8
Shuttle 8.9
Push Ups 75
Sit Ups 80
Mile 6.39

I am guessing that's a pass although the pull ups are a little less than he has done.:thumb:
 
Well I guess they did the CFA today at NASS. I was very surprised at my DS's mile time. He was only able to get a 7:25 at Air Force. Here are his scores from today.

BB throw 63
Pull Ups 8
Shuttle 8.9
Push Ups 75
Sit Ups 80
Mile 6.39

I am guessing that's a pass although the pull ups are a little less than he has done.:thumb:

I'm guessing the disparity in his run times can largely be explained because the Naval Academy is at sea level and the Air Force Academy is ... well ... not a sea level. :smile:
 
can someone take CFA again?

DS is at NASS this week. Said he took CFA and maxxed on some elements, was average- to slightly below-average on others (not sure of his exact numbers - he hasn't had time to text!). He already received an e-mail from "Admissions Office" that said "your USNA Candidate Fitness Assessment Application has been received.... Your application has been successfully completed by Midn 3/C (name withheld). Please ensure that all parts of your application are complete as soon as possible to be competitive for admission..."

Questions -- (1) does that mean he "passed" the CFA or is it just in process, and (2) if he wasn't completely satisfied with his scores (since this was the first time he even tried it), can he take/submit again if he wanted to improve his numbers?

Thank you for helping out this newbie parent understand the process.
 
(1) I don't know. (2) Yes, he can retake the CFA - instructions can be found online as to who can administer the test and how it should be administered. After your son has retaken the test, you may need to email or call admissions so they can send the score reporting link to the test administrator.
 
DS is at NASS this week. Said he took CFA and maxxed on some elements, was average- to slightly below-average on others (not sure of his exact numbers - he hasn't had time to text!).

When he said he was "slightly below-average" on some items, he's probably only comparing himself to others in his group. For all you know, they are an above-average group.

What is more important is how he compares to the rest of the general population of candidates. And even at that - the CFA is generally not a make-or-break aspect of the admissions.

As I keep reminding people, one of my two sons went to NASS (the other twin was invited but chose not to go) and only did 2 pull-ups. He got an LOA.
 
Did ok on CFA

My kid actually maxed out in 3 events. Pull ups, sit ups, and push ups.
Basketball 70 feet. Shuttle 8.6 Did the mile in 7:10.

Had one kid there who did the mile in 5:30.

They posted that he did the CFA on the online app. Does this mean he passed?
 
My kid actually maxed out in 3 events. Pull ups, sit ups, and push ups.
Basketball 70 feet. Shuttle 8.6 Did the mile in 7:10.

Had one kid there who did the mile in 5:30.

They posted that he did the CFA on the online app. Does this mean he passed?

OK - I'll bite - since you're obviously fishing for a compliment. :smile:

Yes! He passed! He passed with flying colors!

Just kidding.

I don't think the Academy has ever advertised the parameters of what constitutes passing and what is failing. Mostly, the CFA just has to be completed and indicate some degree of athleticism.

I don't think the CFA is as important if the candidate has a history of sports involvement. For those who have a weak sports participation record, the CFA probably has more significance. But it is almost never something that will get you "in" or keep you "out".

For instance, how many pull-ups do think some of those "robust", recruited offensive linemen can do? :smile:

Pfft! Yeah, like it would matter.
 
My kid actually maxed out in 3 events. Pull ups, sit ups, and push ups.
Basketball 70 feet. Shuttle 8.6 Did the mile in 7:10.

Had one kid there who did the mile in 5:30.

They posted that he did the CFA on the online app. Does this mean he passed?

A male should be able to run a mile in 6:30 or less. The 7:10 is probably good enough to pass the CFA but won't be good enough to succeed during Plebe Summer or pass the PFT. There is still an entire year . . .
 
A male should be able to run a mile in 6:30 or less. The 7:10 is probably good enough to pass the CFA but won't be good enough to succeed during Plebe Summer or pass the PFT. There is still an entire year . . .

If a 7:10 wasn't good enough to succeed Plebe summer, half the class would be disenrolled.

Half of the incoming class cannot run a 6:30 in the CFA. (Mean time was 6:43).

Perhaps they can run a 6:30 without performing all the other tests before it, but the CFA is designed for cumulative loading, therefore no one is going to run their best mile time at the conclusion of the other 5 consecutive events.
 
7:10 is pretty slow for a guy for a mile, even at the end of the CFT. For PRT's, the run is 1.5 miles, and the slowest allowed time for a guy a 10:30. At a 7:10 pace, that guy is going to fail the PRT run time.
 
So for the PRT, they are not doing the other tests?

What is the target for the PRT?
 
Got it!

Interesting is that the push-up and sit-up minimums appear to be really low.
 
The push-up and sit-up limits ARE really low. Remember, unlike the CFA, which is pass/fail, the PRT is graded. The numbers shown on the USNA link from my earlier post are the absolute lowest numbers to not fail a PRT, IOW, those numbers are low D's.

"Perfect" scores for pushups would be 85 for women or ~100 for guys. A "perfect" sit-up score would be ~100 for either gender. After those events, you have to pass the 1.5 mile run time. Each part counts 1/3 of your score, but you must pass each section, so you can't max two and totally bomb the third.

If someone does flunk the PRT that's held near the start of each semester, they have to do a second one that same semester, and they sometimes have to do remedial workouts under supervision. You really don't want to do that.....
 
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