Back-up--NROTC

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  1. TrumpetTennis

    TrumpetTennis Member

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    Hello. I am a high school junior and have recently (officially) started my service academy applications. I have been working on my application since freshman year. As I know, life does not always go the way we want it to and things can come out of nowhere. I am planning on applying for an NROTC scholarship as a backup plan for USNA and USCGA, however, I am aware that these scholarships are very competitive and hard to get. Nonetheless, could someone advise me how to pursue this scholarship? Thanks! (by the way I don't want an NROTC scholarship for monetary reasons but rather as a jumpstart to a career in the Navy as an officer)

    Here are my stats:
    3.8 unweighted, 4.9 weighted, abt. 25 out of 360 in very competitive school
    part time summer job
    Honor Society
    over 300 volunteer hours
    Peer Mediation
    high school tennis team
    Marching band (varsity) and other bands
    SAT scores (About) 700cr 650m 690w
    ACT (about) 28 composite
    lots of leadership in almost every club
    other EXCs

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. tripletpapi

    tripletpapi New Member

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    Timing is good

    Your basics look good. But you need to start your NROTC scholarship soon. The first board meets in July! So contact your local NROTC recruiter and start the application. My DS had his NROTC Scholarship by September.
     
  3. TrumpetTennis

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    Thanks! I have a few colleges in mind (Penn State, North Carolina State, Norwich U). Do I have to contact their units? Where does DoDMERB and the physical test come into play? What does the recruiter do? Forgive my ignorance as I have been focusing on academy whatnot over the last three years

    Thanks
     
  4. rkrosnar

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    Back-up NROTC

    TrumpetTennis,

    I see your looking at Penn State for NROTC, great school with a great NROTC program. My DS has several friends who are in ROTC there and love it.
    If I can be any help feel free to ask.

    RGK

    PS Good luck and God Bless
     
  5. MorganC

    MorganC Prospective

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    What exactly is your source on the info about a July Scholarship board? It doesn't seem right to me
     
  6. dunninla

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    Here are a few things:

    1) Contact your closest university offering NROTC, and speak with the Recruiting Officer, or if you can , the Professor of Naval Science, more commonly known on the NROTC website as the "Commanding Officer" of the Battalion (usually a LT. COL). You'll find them on the website for that school... just google "NROTC XXX school".

    2) The Recruiting Officer or CO will help you locate the NROTC recruiting officer for the zip code in which you currently reside. THIS IS NOT THE LOCAL NAVAL RECRUITING OFFICER trying to recruit enlisted sailors into the Navy. NROTC has its own dedicated recruiting officers, This is your 2nd best contact. I believe the name of your NROTC Recruiting Officer is also populated into the on-line NROTC Scholarship Application once you start your Draft applicaiton. Different cities/zip code ranges have different NROTC recruiting goals for hispanic, asian, black, nurse program, and other. Some recruiting offices can even offer a scholarship to their #1 ranked target (I forget what this is called) than only needs to be stamped by the Pensacola committee, but it is effectively a shortcut to the Scholarship. The goals of each Recruiting Region pertain to the number of completed applications, not final selections. This NROTC recruiter will go over your in-progess Application with you to make sure it represents you in the strongest light. After the recruiters review of your applicaiton, and any strengthening of it, you will then submit your online NROTC Scholarship Application via the website. Once this is done, your NROTC recruiter will then arrange your NROTC scholarship application Officer Interview. Once your scholarship app is completed, and the Officer Interview is completed shortly thereafter, the NROTC recruiting Officer has zero input, and zero knowledge of your status at the Pensacola, FL. located NETC/NSTC (goes by both names), which is the office that works with a committee to stack rank all applications and select awardees. The NETC/NSTC office then matches the awardees that come out of Committee to 1 (ONE) college from the list of five on the scholarship application, generally in the order in which you listed them, or contact you if all five of your choices on your application are already full and into wait list. The schools filling up first (October in a normal year) are the 5 Sr. Military Colleges offering NROTC (Norwich, VA Tech, Tex. A&M, VMI, the Citadel) along with Embry Riddle, and University of San Diego.

    3) Once your scholarship application is complete and at the NETC/NSTC in Pensacola, the staff there becomes a critical contact. If you change your mind about the 5 schools on your app, or have updated information, it goes there. You can also phone them there. However, they WILL NOT DISCUSS your chances of getting a scholarship... only the committee members know that, and they don't discuss that with the NETC/NSTC staff.

    To consider: the problem to be avoided if at all possible is that of being awarded a scholarship to X University, and you don't get into X University through the Admissions office. This means you have to give a lot of thought about doing ED applications to your #1 choice, and/or not listing colleges on your list of 5 that you are not likely to get into. A scholarship Awarded to NROTC at Notre Dame, for example, because you listed ND as your #1 choice, is risky because you have a 75% chance of not getting into ND through ND admissions... then what do you do with THAT NROTC scholarship? You can't use it. You would then need to go to Pensacola in mid/late March and ask for help finding Battalions that have openings... no fun.

    Lastly, as you say you don't necessarily need the scholarship money, but want to be a commissioned Naval Officer, know that you can participate in NROTC at any college offering NROTC as a non-scholarship midshipman. It is called the College Program. By Junior Year, the CO or XO will tell you if you have qualified to continue into NROTC Advanced Standing, meaning you will get your commission just like any Scholarship mid will. Entering Advance Standing, you sign a contract just like the Scholarship midshipmen did, and are treated the same on campus and at the time of Service Selection. You will also receive the same monthly stipend the scholarship mids do once you Contract.
     
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  7. Jcleppe

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    Make sure you don't call the Commanding Officer at NROTC a LT. COL.

    The equivilant rank in the Navy would be a "Commander" they might be a LT. Commander as well.

    Sorry, just didn't want the poor kid to get their head bit off on the first meeting.

    I'm sure it was a typo, it just made me chuckle, I did that once a loooong time ago, only did that once as you can imagine.

    Of course you could have been referring to a Marine LT. COL. in which case....nevermind.
     
  8. TrumpetTennis

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    Thank you for taking the time to give detailed and extensive advice. I look forward to the process!

    TrumpetTennis:smile:
     
  9. dpt620

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    just realize that getting a scholarship is still competitive, no matter how high your stats are. I have a 32 ACT (34 superscored) and a 1430/1600 SAT and I still haven't heard if I've gotten a scholarship yet. I applied to USNA also (and got waitlisted) but from what I've seen on these threads NROTC isn't necessarily less competitive than the academy. There were a few people with SAT scores over 1500 with extensive extracurriculars and leadership ability that have yet to receive scholarships, but did receive service academy appointments.

    The navy is cutting down on scholarships. I would recommend you choose a Tier I major (if you are willing to) and pick mostly state schools--they are cheaper and you are more likely to receive a scholarship because of this. All texas state schools charge the military in state tuition for ROTC cadets, even for OOS students, so those would also be a really good option.

    I would also pursue Army and Air Force ROTC. If your goal is to serve, where you are serving shouldn't be a huge deal. Right now, I'm really regretting not pursuing anything other than NROTC and USNA. Considering how competitive it is to receive a scholarship, its really in your best interest to apply to as many outlets as possible.
     
  10. pennak

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    I second that advice. My DS had weighted 4.0 and a 1400 SAT and was an Eagle Scout and obtained NEITHER USNA NOR a Marine Option NROTC scholarship (which is supposedly less competitive than NROTC). He didn't want to try the AFA or West Point or any other ROTC program (he wants to be a Marine and ONLY a Marine). So, now we face the hard reality of no scholarhip and very expensive schools. Be sure to apply as soon as you can so you can get on the early boards which may be a bit less competitive.
     

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