BAH after graduation?

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  1. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    Hey all. I'm getting married just after graduation (29-30 May), and I'm curious how the BAH system works for new grads.

    First and foremost, am I entitled to BAH over grad leave? Looking at the rules, I think I should be, as I would be a "A member with permanent duty within the 50 United States, who is not furnished government housing".

    What location would I get BAH from? Would it be for my last duty station(West Point), or for where I report for BOLC?

    Google has been mysteriously silent on this. Looking at the regulations governing it, it looks like I should get BAH, but I have no idea if there are some bizarre cadetland rules that apply to this situation.
     
  2. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    When do your orders start? If they start for that not location immediately, that's your BAH location.

    You are NEAR other cadets/officers right? Google probably isn't the first place to stop. Ask them too.
     
  3. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    Yeah, I'm near them, but it's a little hard to talk to anyone who knows anything at 2300 on a Sunday, and the general cadet response varies from "oh yeah definitely" to "no not at all". Google was my first guess, but there was literally nothing relating to my situation, so I figured I'd ask you guys.

    I can't see my orders, we had a meeting, signed some paperwork, and put them into a box to go to the S1 shop for processing. As far as I know, it's just a leave order, and I'm not really familiar with those.

    Edit - wording
     
  4. Stealth_81

    Stealth_81 Super Moderator Moderator Founding Member

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    Son did not get BAH until he reported to his first duty station.

    Stealth_81
     
  5. America's Finest

    America's Finest USMA Cadet

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    We got "travel BAH" which was about $600 plus dollars until we reported to BOLC. If your BOLC is considered a PCS (like Infantry and I believe Armor may be as well) then you get BAH for that location of your BOLC (the pay won't begin until the paperwork goes through so you will get back pay for the difference between travel BAH and BOLC BAH). If your BOLC is not a PCS then you will not get BAH.

    This information may not apply to you since you will be married.
     
  6. scoutpilot

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    Married right after graduation...

    I do love watching a train wreck.
     
  7. MemberLG

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    I think we got some finance briefing before we graduated, I didn't pay attention or don't remember anything from it.

    There should be a local finance office at West Point. Sometimes that's what you have to do - calling/visiting to get your personal or your soldier's finance issues resolved. What are you going to do PL (platoon leader), if one of your soldiers come to you with a pay problem? He already went to the Battalion
    S-1 section and no help.
     
  8. MemberLG

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    Ran into a 93 grad at the Founder's Day Dinner, 2% club, married the girl friend, and still married.
     
  9. scoutpilot

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    It certainly happens. I think that the dynamic was very different 20 years ago.

    I'd venture that most of my classmates who got married immediately are divorced--especially dual military couples.
     
  10. MemberLG

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    I would also venture that most of my classmates who got married immediately are divorced-especially dual military couples. Apologizes to those who are still married.

    Glad I am happily married and don't' have to worry about finding someone. Just wondering as to the dynamic being easier to keep in touch now as my class had to wait for phones and pay for phone calls. Now days with face time, Skype, and whatever it is easier to keep in touch.
     
  11. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    You seem like a nice person. You must be a lot of fun at parties.
     
  12. Hurricane12

    Hurricane12 USNA 2012

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    Well, he's kinda right...


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  13. linkgmr

    linkgmr Old Grad

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    To say that I'm a train wreck because I'm getting married after graduation? Knowing nothing about my situation? How is that "kinda right"? He knows nothing of how long we've been together, the nature of our relationship, our reasons for getting married, or even who we are as people. I know the stereotypes as well as anyone else, but the existence of those generalizations doesn't mean that my marriage is doomed to fail.
     
  14. aglages

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    Scoutpilot is often abrasive. Don't take it personally. Statistically....he is probably correct. A lot of marriages don't work out. Hopefully yours will.
    Good luck!:thumb:
     
  15. MemberLG

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    Did Scout actually call your pending marriage a "train wreck"?

    Scout never directly stated that your marriage will be a train wreck. You deduced that his statement of "I do love watching a train wreck" was directed at your planned marriage.

    Most things you do as a 2LT should be based on spoken or written things.
     
  16. Aglahad

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    Eh he is right. The amount of failed marriages or failing marriages in the military is ridiculous especially while young....

    BOLC will be the first obstacle and AMEDD in particular is a sh*t show if either of you are heading that way.
     
  17. Pima

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    Divorce occurs in both the military and the civilian life. I would not say either has a higher chance of it ending if married at a young age.

    Bullet and I married when I was 23, he was 24. We are still married 25 years later, and so are our closest friends {AF) that got married young too.
    ~~~ Yes, times are changing, but what stays the same is if someone chooses the right person no matter how young they are not doomed to be a train wreck.

    my view might be skewed, after all Bullet's siblings that got married closer to 30, non-military didn't make 20 years. It might be our DS at the ripe old age of 24, she is 22, are getting married next month, and we 1,000,000 percent support the marriage because during this past year while he was at UPT and had bad days, it was his fiance that picked him up via Skype (she is in NC, he is in TX). He talked to her, not us. That Bible story of Adam's rib is true for them. They are best friends, and cleave to each other, not the folks. He chose the woman that is the best thing for him and understands that this is a unique life. There is no illusion in her eyes about how his job being 24/7/365, plus moving every few years and her restarting her career.

    ~~~ To me it isn't age, it is the mate chosen that makes it a train wreck. None of us know their relationship. Honestly, I too would be affronted because I think some of the posters were judgemental.

    Plus, the OP didn't ask should he propose, he asked about how the pay system works, which shows great maturity to me by being fiscally responsible and planning their finances before they enter and not when they are in.

    OP,

    Here are a couple of things to think about that you might not have thought about yet.
    1. Moving
    ~~~ Are you from the same hometown? Our DSs fiance is from another state, they are still getting varying opinions from TMO whether they have to do a DITY or they will consider it a move from his home of record. (She would bring it to us and AF would collect it from our home). He would then DITY from Del Rio TX to Abilene, and because they are below the weight limit they would get paid for both.
    2. Housing for your first assignment.
    ~~~ You are allowed, at least in the AF to sign up for on base housing prior to arrival
    3. Pay
    ~~~ Expect that your pay will vary in the beginning,
    ~~~~~ PCS pay, TDY pay, TLA, DLA, and on top of it adding her as a dependent. I think for DS it was about 3 pay periods that varied (1st, 15th, 1st) due to HIhis report date, PCS, per diem, etc., and that didn't include adding on a dependent .
    4. Getting her military ID card so she has medical coverage if needed. If she has a job, than you can wait until you two are together,
    ~~~~ Our future DIL will not be moving for @ 8 weeks after they are married while he is on TDY for water and land survival (pilot). She has health insurance with her company, thus it is not a biggie to get her ID card as soon as they marry.

    Best wishes and congratulations not only on commissioning and defending this great nation, but your impending nuptials.

    Finally, I am chuckling at the train wreck comment.
    ~~~ if it is such a big train wreck, why is it that the chapels at every SA are booked solid every 30 minutes during graduation week? There will be a ton of train wrecks just out of the SAs.

    One of our friends as a C2C (AFA) booked his wedding before he even proposed to his wife. We asked him: What if she said NO? He said he'd ask somebody else. They will celebrate their 28th anniversary this May.
     
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  18. raimius

    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    To be fair, I do know of a few LTs that are already divorced.
    Most seem to be surviving the first assignment pretty well though.
     

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