There is always frank discussion about the routes to achieve an appointment. I now know the the best way is to be a recruited athlete. This may not be as accurate with USNA, USMA, or USMMA but the instance I speak of is for USAFA. I have been reprimanded before for suggesting a two-tier system but it is absolutely true. Guy I know well plays football not even interested in USAFA until January or so. He did not do any of the paper work or MOC interviews most went through last fall. Became a recruit and committed to USAFA this spring. THe MOC that ended up giving him a nomination was not even sworn into office until after all the nominations were due! He is a brand new Senator. This guys Dad told me that the football department took care of all the paperwork. Before I was told that athletes have to go through the same process as everyone else. Thats hogwash! It is just frustrating to see some people get an easier way in just because of athletics. For background, yes- I am bitter because I was shutout for USNA and USMMA. I have wanted an appointment for many years and worked on my app process for about a year. It is difficult to watch others waltz into it without long term consideration or much effort. Thanks for listening,just had to get that off my chest.