Boy Scouts VS Civil Air Patrol?

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  1. Mattu077

    Mattu077 New Member

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    I am currently 13 years old and have recently discovered the Air Force Academy. I've always wanted to be a pilot and believe me, I will not rest until I've done everything I can to get into the Academy. I've researched for hours and I found the civil air patrol. I am also in Boy Scouts, however. I've already enrolled myself into the cadet program and have even emailed my scoutmaster, telling him this. He explained to me that being an Eagle Scout would put me at the top of the Academy Admissions list (him being a Marine and had applied to USAFA), but I guess I'd have to make a choice between BSA and CAP. CAP, to me, seems that it would better prepare me to be in the Air Force and would be more desirable to Academy Admissions. Of course Eagle Scout is no easy feat, but CAP is the auxiliary of the USAF. Can anyone give me some insight on this? It is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. FEIMOM

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    Can you do both? DS was able to do both and gained a lot from both groups in terms of leadership and fabulous opportunities. He achieved both Eagle and Mitchell and received an appointment to USAFA. Highly recommend both programs.
     
  3. time2

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    He is exaggerating by telling you being an Eagle Scout puts you at the top of the admissions list. There isn't any single activity where that is true. You do gets points for being an Eagle Scout, but you also get points h.s. sports, ECA's, leadership etc. All of those things count toward what admissions is looking for.
     
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  4. Swag

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    I agree... Do both if you can. Boys scouts shows dedication from an early age, usually 6 years old until Eagle. My son got his eagle at 16. There's something to be said for a long term commitment. You're 13...you will regret not finishing. Only 5% of scouts make it to Eagle...you can do it!
     
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    Pretty sure neither activity is more desirable to admissions than the other. Find what you love and do extremely well in it.
     
  6. Raptor22

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    CAP WILL NOT prepare you for the REAL Air Force. Trust me.
     
  7. Raptor22

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    And the whole Auxiliary of the Air Force thing doesnt really mean anything.
     
  8. Mattu077

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    Thx all for the insight. I really hope that I can do both... I'm just worried about all of the other commitments I'm going to make to get in @Swag
     
  9. Swag

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    That's why it's only 5%...life gets in the way! I do agree with doing what you love. Good luck!
     
  10. Christcorp

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    You've been in scouting for a while. Obviously you got into it because you wanted to. You've stayed with it because you like it. That if the RIGHT reason for being in scouts. You seem to be looking at CAP because you think that it will somehow get you extra points towards applying to the academy. That is the WRONG reason for being in CAP.

    You will prosper and excel in things you have a passion for. And THAT is what the academy and military are looking for. Do you think the academy really gives a hoot if you're in CAP, JrROTC, scouts, band, or any other activity. No, they don't. What they care about is passion, commitment, excelling, leadership, teamwork, perserverence, etc. they don't give a darn HOW or WHERE you do those things. As long as you demonstrate them. And the best way to demonstrate those things, is to be involved in activities that you want to be in and are passionate about. You obviously like scouts. That's what you should be involved in. Use your extra time to be involved in sports, volunteering, and other social activities. Activities that you like and are passionate about. Then, you'll find ways to excel in those activities to gain leadership experience in them.

    And raptor is 100% correct. CAP will not prepare you for the academy or real military any better than any other activity you can think of. FWIW. I had an individual go to the academy last summer. He was in JrROTC from the first year available. He was the #2 in the JrROTC program. He wanted the academy and military his whole life. He KNEW he was prepared. Or at least he THOUGHT he was. He quit the academy half way through basic training. CAP, JrROTC, scouts, etc. are all great programs. But none of them will prepare you for the academy. Definitely not better than any other activity.

    The academy is looking for leaders. To become a leader, you must first know how to follow. You must learn how to be part of a team. The academy gets many good leaders walking in on day one. Some aren't the best leaders yet, but they are great team players and develop into good leaders. Those leadership qualities and traits can be developed in any activity. From the band to the science club. From church groups to volunteering to help the needy. From the football team to the bowling team. From scouts to going on a mission retreat. Just do the activities you are passionate about and excel in them.
     
  11. Mattu077

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    Thank you @Christcorp. I can't tell you how much that helped
     
  12. Padre101

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    In CAP, you will have the opportunity to fly in airplanes.

    My son gained his love of flying because of CAP. FYI.
     
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    I'm just gonna throw in my two cents... First off, it's great that you already have a goal in mind at 13 and have a passion to reach that goal. Yes, becoming an Eagle Scout will help (it certainly won't hurt!). My son joined scouting at 15 as a freshman in high school with the end goal that it would help him get into the academy. Mind you, there were plenty of other things that went into reaching that goal and they all require hard work, perseverance and TIME commitments. As long as you enjoy scouting, stick with it. Start earning all your merit badges early and get those out of the way so that when it comes time to do the 6-month stretches as a star and life scout, you'll be able to focus on other things that are going to help you out - like participating in team sports, clubs, volunteering, seeking leadership opportunities and/or positions of responsibility, running for class officer, perhaps getting a part-time job, taking advanced curriculum and doing well, scoring well on the SAT or ACT. Maybe you can also look into CAP if time allows. At 13, time is on your side.
     
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  14. Car_ramrod

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    If anything I recommend Eagle Scout, I got mine this year (March 16th was my board of review and my paperwork came back in May.) I turned in my paperwork 1 day before my birthday (so don't procrastinate) and I was so happy I didn't quit like I saw so many do. You have to think about the long run on this, if you don't get into USAFA and you end up graduating from a civilian school, when applying for a job in the post graduate world Eagle Scout will make a big impression on applications. No business is going to care that you were in CAP. But when they see Eagle Scout they will focus on your application more. Strive to be in the 5%! You have time, but it will fly if you don't jump on the opportunities to be Eagle.
     

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