C/O 2019 Questions

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  1. d22

    d22 Member

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    DS, is starting on this journey. He has had his pre-application finished since January, and was issued a candidate number when he was accepted into NASS. With all the chatter he was under the impression that the application started today, but all he could find this morning was the pre-app. Is this his first intro into the hurry up and wait mentality, or did he misunderstand, and the full application is somewhere he isn't looking?
     
  2. navymomwannabe

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    Today is the day that people can RE-APPLY who did not get in for c/o 2018. For c/o 2019 he won't be able to access his portal until June.

    Congrats on NASS....tell him to run instead of checking his portal. :)
     
  3. d22

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    Thank you Navymom. He's been working out for the CFA (SS session 1.) However, his swim team is starting to taper, and he's trying to balance the two. If anyone has any suggestions on how to best train for the two while having to taper, I'm open to suggestions.

    I have my fingers crossed for your DS, and the other re-applicants. All the best! :smile:
     
  4. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Not excelling on the CFA at NASS isn't the end of the world b/c you can retake it.

    That said, you do NOT want to be the guy/gal who can't keep up, who is always last, who holds back the team, etc. Nor do you want to fail the CFA at NASS -- because it looks bad. There are >2 months until the first session of NASS. PLENTY of time to run, do crunches and pushups, etc.
     
  5. d22

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    Thank you for your insight usna1985.

    Just recently DS wanted a baseline for his CFA, so DH and I conducted a mock test for him. Based on previously posted forum scores he was competitive (his weakness being the shuttle run.) He wasn't satisfied because his goal is to max in all areas. He has high expectations of himself, and will definitely be working out up until a few days prior to SS. The problem is coach knows that he's working out outside of swim (muscle fatigue,) because coach isn't getting his best times out of DS. We live in a very competitive school district, and league and finals are soon approaching. DS is figuring out how to workout w/o coach knowing. :smile:
     
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  6. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    Honestly, the CFA should not even be close to difficult for those that are heavily involved in sports and workout routinely.

    My question is what is really the priority? Doing well in swimming for upcoming competitions or focusing on preparation for the CFA?

    Don't overdo the CFA at this point...odds are that your DS is already in great shape and maybe some practice CFAs or focusing in on some of the CFA specific tests is appropriate after the swimming season concludes (I'm assuming there is probably a few weeks between season conclusion and NASS).
     
  7. d22

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    Thank you for your input usnabgo08.

    Interesting you bring up those topics; they were all discussed this evening.

    CFA is definitely the priority, although DS feels a sense of loyalty to his team so it's a balancing act right now.

    DS is in great shape, and working hard with am and pm (swim & CFA) practices. What we don't want are any injuries prior to summer seminar so active rest is also on the list. When swim finals end, DS has two weeks to dedicate himself before SS begins. Although we recommended stretching and active rest several days prior to summer seminar.
     
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    I'm the parent of a swimmer and DS is in incredible shape. I understand the complexities of swim training and tapering while trying to dry land train for something so important. DS did well on his CFA in all but the running portions. Swimmers in my experience swim for a reason - they are not fast on land. Tell him to run run run. His strength from swimming will get him thru pull-ups sit ups and push-ups. Best of luck.


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  9. 18mamag

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    There are many stages of the Application. Kind of a screening process. You have to pass the pre ap to get to the next step of the ap. I do not remember the exact timing, so fill it out and then keep checking your portal. PM me if you want other information. DD Class of 2018 and now DS is candidate class of 2019.
     
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    Perpswimmom, I was hoping you'd chime in, thank you. What was your DS's formula for tapering while trying to train for his CFA? (if you're more comfortable sending me a pm, please feel free.) Luckily DS isn't too bad at running, but needs to work on those quick-twitch muscles, and speed burst for his shuttle run. In the past I affectionately compared him to a baby giraffe trying to run. :smile:
     
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    18mamag, Thank you for your offer, and I'm sure at some point I'll need all the advice I can get.

    DS filled out the pre-app in Jan., and already has a candidate #. When you say to check his portal, what/where exactly is that?

    Congratulations to your DD, and all the best to your DS!
     
  12. 18mamag

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    Go to usna.edu, then admissions, then continue application. USNA Candidate information appears, fill in, then log in.

    Next the Candidate Information Page comes up. This first section shows candidate data from your preliminary application.

    The next section say 'Required Application Documents,' then it describes exactly what to do for Candidate Application Packet. The first listed item is Personal Data Record - and next to it 'Not Received(Submit Online).' Click on submit online and start the unending forms :)

    Let me know if you find it/need any more information.
     
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    Sent you a PM.


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  14. RNrecruiter

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    DS is currently a plebe (Class of 2017), when he was a Junior in high school he had swim League Finals and CIF the end of May and Summer Session 1 (June 2-7). He tapered with swim team and did not try to train for CFA at all. It's really not necessary; if your son is a competitive swimmer he will be fine for the athletic portion of Summer Session (including CFA).

    It was a bit trickier during his Senior year of high school, once again tapering for League Finals and CIF in May, while trying to ramp up the training for Plebe Summer and I Day of June 27. Unlike Summer Seminar and CFA, Plebe Summer DOES require early training and preparation! Once again, he tapered with the swim team and did core strengthening on the side and as soon as swim season was over he kicked into a higher gear of training with more running.
     
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    Thank you for your insight. That's what my DH is telling me. I guess I need to trust the system.
     
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    Thank you :smile:
     
  17. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    I'd like to add to what RNrecruiter said...

    Physical fitness is a constant activity, it shouldn't be just something you do during a specific time of the year and the completely slack off the other. While Plebe Summer does require one to be in much shape...get into a routine where you are doing the core body strength year round, so that when it comes to swim season in the spring, you don't have to worry about "catching up" to get in shape for plebe summer. That will also enable one to pull back during the final week(s) of swim season and not lose much stamina or at least have the following much to catch back up.
     
  18. osdad

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    I get the feeling you're over-thinking this.

    Any reasonaly athletic 16/17 YO should be able to keep up at NASS and do acceptably well on the CFA with no special preparation. Your DS, being a high level competitive swimmer, should be able to nearly max every item with very little practice. OK maybe he has to get out an run a few miles but he'll be fine. Understand he's spent most of his time in the water but shame on his coach if he wasn't also strenthening his core.

    He will be fine. NASS is a recruting tool. He has months to train if he wants to max the CFA for real.
     

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