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America will always care about Army-Navy far more than they care about the CiC Trophy, or any matchup that Air Force plays. It's just the way it is.

And you know, that's fine!

I mean...since 1890...ARMY v NAVY!!!

That's HUGE!!

And I love the game, the pomp and pageantry...it's one of the VERY FEW examples like that that we have in our country.

USAFA v either one? While as a "Wild Blue U" grad, I'd LOVE to have that type rivalry/history...it won't happen in this lifetime.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
And you know, that's fine!

I mean...since 1890...ARMY v NAVY!!!

That's HUGE!!

And I love the game, the pomp and pageantry...it's one of the VERY FEW examples like that that we have in our country.

USAFA v either one? While as a "Wild Blue U" grad, I'd LOVE to have that type rivalry/history...it won't happen in this lifetime.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83

It's all fair...we would have killed to have your coach!
 
I mean...since 1890...ARMY v NAVY!!!

Makes the game 13 years older than powered flight.

Air Force can't compete with that long of a legacy. I mean, they were playing the game before there were airplanes (much less an Air Force).
 
First military test flight was not long after 1890....and lets not forget who Air Force's daddy is (Army).
 
First military test flight was not long after 1890....and lets not forget who Air Force's daddy is (Army).

The Wright Brothers didn't fly until 1903. I'm not counting balloons or any non-powered aircraft that might have been in use prior to that. If I did, I think I'd have to go back quite a way before 1890.

And yes, the Air Force comes from the Army.
 
The Wright Brothers didn't fly until 1903. I'm not counting balloons or any non-powered aircraft that might have been in use prior to that. If I did, I think I'd have to go back quite a way before 1890.

And yes, the Air Force comes from the Army.

Navy also comes from the Army.
 
The "Anti-Climactic" is in response to there not being anything on the line other than pride. Air Force always plays navy first in the season. "At least normally". With Navy having won the previous 7 years against air force, and air force having usually won against army, by the time the army/navy game came, the navy was in a no lose situation. They WIN, they get the trophy. They LOSE, they still get to keep the trophy. This year, should air force beat army, the trophy is out of the equation. I agree that most civilians have no relationship or tie with the CIC trophy. They couldn't care less. But the academies do.

Anyway, we look forward to playing army. Especially now that they appear to be getting better. But don't worry about air force JAM. Your team not being in a "Conference", you probably don't understand how conference play works. But should by chance Air Force lose to both TCU and Utah, that would simply fuel our desire for the trophy that much more. You should actually hope that we WIN both TCU/Utah games. Then we're most likely Conference champions and looking at a possible BCS bowl game. That would be very distracting to air force. But just like army has history with navy on the field, so does air force with our conference. We play these guys every year. They know us and we know them. We play 8 conference teams a year. A loss to TCU or Utah is different than a loss to Oklahoma or Florida State. No, if Air Force loses to TCU/Utah, it isn't because air force sucks, it's because TCU is #5 in the country and Utah is #10 in the country. And after play 4 nationally ranked teams this year, we understand playing high caliber teams. If we lose against TCU/Utah, I wouldn't want to be Army.
 
The Wright Brothers didn't fly until 1903. I'm not counting balloons or any non-powered aircraft that might have been in use prior to that. If I did, I think I'd have to go back quite a way before 1890.

And yes, the Air Force comes from the Army.

I wouldn't really consider 13 year LONG after....
 
Navy also comes from the Army.

Never heard that one before. However, two hundred and thirty five years ago TODAY, Continental Congress passed legislation to fit out “two swift sailing vessels” with ten guns and eighty crewmen creating the beginnings to what would become the United States Navy. Because of this, October 13th is condsidered the Navy's Birthday.
 
the Army/Navy game is going to be a bit "Anti-Climactic".
LOL.

Tell you what, CC. Let's play a game. Each and every year, at least one sports publication/sports writer will publish a list of the greatest college football rivalries of all time. A quick Google confirmed that many are available on the internet. For every list which you can find that includes an AFA rivalry or a list that does not include Army-Navy, I will find ten that does include Army-Navy.

Incidentially, the Cinc Trophy was created in order to give AFA a sense of belonging in the SA football arena. I don't think it has worked. I just checked last night because I am thinking about driving 700 miles to go to the game. Army-AFA tickets are still available. Unbelievable. Chet Gladchuck, the new AD at Navy was appalled back about ten years ago when the Navy-AFA game at FedEx Field only drew 35,000 or so. He said it was embarassing to the TV audience to see an empty stadium. This is why Navy enlarged their stadium, specifically to accomodate AFA-Navy. Historically, two teams with only three or four combined victories have drawn close to 100,000 screaming fans. Not one had a care in the world for the CinC trophy. Nothing like it.
 
However, two hundred and thirty five years ago TODAY, Continental Congress passed legislation to fit out “two swift sailing vessels” with ten guns and eighty crewmen creating the beginnings to what would become the United States Navy. Because of this, October 13th is considered the Navy's Birthday.

Congratulations and HAPPY BIRTHDAY NAVY. I'm sure that the ghosts of JP Jones, Hull, Decatur, Dewey, Halsey, Nimitz, Burke and all the rest are enjoying their well earned plaudits on this day. Sailors have a huge legacy of great leaders to live up to.
All those guys will probably disagree with me , however,Beat Navy!:wink:
 
Never heard that one before. However, two hundred and thirty five years ago TODAY, Continental Congress passed legislation to fit out “two swift sailing vessels” with ten guns and eighty crewmen creating the beginnings to what would become the United States Navy. Because of this, October 13th is condsidered the Navy's Birthday.

I think they should celebrate two birthdays....the Continental Navy and the U.S. Navy.....it's more cake for all.
 
Never heard that one before. .

Maybe if he's going back to cavemen. I mean, I guess they would club each other on land before they had the technology to make reed boats (so they could club each other out at sea). I suppose, for all of humanity, this would mean that "navies" originated from "armies." :shake:
 
Maybe if he's going back to cavemen. I mean, I guess they would club each other on land before they had the technology to make reed boats (so they could club each other out at sea). I suppose, for all of humanity, this would mean that "navies" originated from "armies." :shake:

Based on my workplace experiences day-in and day-out I can safely agree with the logical conclusion of that theory which holds that armies come from cavemen.
 
Based on my workplace experiences day-in and day-out I can safely agree with the logical conclusion of that theory which holds that armies come from cavemen.
And once they developed somewhat, navies were formed, which explains a lot in the apparent difference in the mental capacities of the two services.
 
And once they developed somewhat, navies were formed, which explains a lot in the apparent difference in the mental capacities of the two services.

However after you look at the fact that navies have been unable to reproduce, for a variety of reasons, one must question how those superior genes are passed on.
 
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