Can ROTC scholarship cover 1/2 tuition+room+board

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  1. frenzymando

    frenzymando Banned

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    A school is offering me a scholarship that covers 1/2 tuition. If I got an ROTC scholarship could it cover the rest of the tuition and room and board?

    Tuition at the school is $50000 and room and board is $14000. The scholarship I received covers $25000 of that grand total of $64000. If ROTC scholarships are supposed to cover tuition(which is in this case $50000), can I have part of that $50000 the ROTC scholarship is supposed to cover go to tuition and another part go to room and board?
     
  2. EDelahanty

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    I haven't seen any AROTC scholarships split in the manner you propose.

    You don't actually have the ROTC scholarship offer, do you? If and when you get it, why not contact the school, describe your situation and see if you can get them to give you money for room and board?

    You've probably checked on this already, but some high-priced schools cover all or a portion of R&B for ROTC scholarship winners.
     
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  3. frenzymando

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    I don't have an ROTC scholarship offer, but if an ROTC scholarship won't cover what I want it to at that school I won't apply for an ROTC scholarship there. I can't afford to pay for 1/2 tuition or room+board if the ROTC scholarship won't cover one or the other. I won't even apply to the school in question unless I know I can get full ride through an ROTC scholarship combined with what they offered me. So waiting until I get an ROTC scholarship(if I get one) to find out isn't really an option.

    I checked the school's ROTC website and it looks like all an ROTC scholarship covers at the school is tuition, fees and books. It also says "Don’t need to pay tuition? A scholarship can be used for Room and Board instead – up to $10,000/year!" I guess I should contact the school and see if they can split the ROTC scholarship money how I want.

    I probably should have mentioned this in the OP, but I'm applying for an Army ROTC scholarship.

    Thanks for the reply!
     
  4. EDelahanty

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    I may not have made myself clear. At some schools, if AROTC provides a scholarship (paying full tuition), then the school itself will separately cover all or a portion of R&B.
     
  5. kinnem

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    I don't think the school can split the ROTC schola ship money how you want. It's not their decision. What they can do is change the terms of the scholarship they are offering you so it can be used to cover room and board.
     
  6. frenzymando

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    That wouldn't help me because I'd have to pay 1/2 of the tuition(tuition is 50k so I'd be paying 25k) while room and board is only 14k. I guess I won't be applying at that school unless the school gives full ride to all ROTC scholarship winners. Thanks for the information!
     
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    I don't think you're understanding. The ROTC scholarship could cover the full tuition. If you can convince the school to change the $25,000 scholarship they awarded you to be used for room and board instead, then everything is covered. Or am I missing something? Schools award scholarships because they want you to attend their school. They might well be interested in making the change. It doesn't hurt to at least explore it with the Bursars office at the college. WHy are you in such a hurry to give up?
     
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  8. Kronk

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    Itd almost definitely be easier to work it out on the school's end. Get them to convert that $25,000 a year tuition scholarship into a $14,000 a year room and board one, and let AROTC cover the $50,000 tuition
     
  9. Pima

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    frenzy,

    Most colleges at that price range do what is called needs base financial aid. For example, I know Notre Dame does that. This package typically comes down later because you need to submit your FAFSA which for 2016/17 school year it will not open until Jan. 1st 2016.

    Additionally realize that if you use it for R & B that money (ROTC) will be taxable income.

    As others have said contact your FA office at that school to see how they work it with ROTC. They may say they take the total - ROTC and than apply the 25K. In that case if ROTC awards the scholarship to that school, it would be a free ride since the 25K could be applied to R & B. If they say that their scholarship comes off the top 1st or it can only be used for tuition, than the ROTC would have to go R & B. Meaning you would need to take loans/grants to pay the 25K remaining.
    ~ I have seen it work both ways.
     
  10. USMAROTCFamily

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    In the case that you are speaking of, you would take the ROTC scholarship to cover the full tuition. You then will either pay your own Room and Board at $14,900 or see if the school will allow you to transfer their scholarship to cover Room and Board. Based on our experience, we found most schools will not transfer their scholarships to room and board in this case, but there definitely would be some who could. The question you need to decide is, how much can you and your family afford to pay for school? Only apply to the schools that can make that happen. Both my DS and DD only listed school on their AROTC scholarship application that would give free room and board to AROTC scholarship winners or where they had a full merit academic scholarship awarded by the school where they could use the AROTC Scholarship for room and board. We knew it would be a full-ride for any school they got selected to then.
     
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    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Army ROTC is not going to split the scholarship. It's either tuition and fees, or Room and board. Don't forget you'll also get stipend and book money. That may put enough of a dent in your room and board to be affordable.
     
  12. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    The only reason it'd be worth paying $64,000 (that's just the base cost, there's still extra expenses and an expensive meal plan to pay for) per year for 4 years to get a degree is if you're attending an Ivy League...and maybe not even then. Even with the tuition reduced to $25,000, that's still way more than I would ever get a loan for, and depending on your calculated need from the school (which is total BS btw, just because your parents are middle class doesn't mean they can afford to pay for your college) you man not even qualify for a loan that large. What if you don't get an ROTC scholarship? What if you get a scholarship, and then down the line decide you don't want to be in the military or get kicked out because of a failure to meet standards, medical issue, or even just because the Army decided they needed to rift a few future officers? Don't go to a school that will put you in massive debt if you lose your scholarship.

    What state do you live in? Are there any really good local universities there? I go to a top 5 engineering school for $11,000 a year since I happen to be in state. The Air Force pays for all of it and I live at home so no room and board, but if I didn't have the Air Force scholarship there's a state scholarship that I received for tuition that I've had for the past 3 years. And if I lost that I could afford, through loans, to pay for all of it.

    I have to ask, what degree do you intend to study at this school that is worth the $256,000+ sticker price?
     
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  13. ginko

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    I agree with Non Ducor. If you don't have $200000 cash to pay for that degree then you should not take the risk. Debt is not good for you. It causes stress and obligates you in ways that you should not be obligated. Live your life without the monkey riding on your back. Go to a school you can afford and be a good student. We advised our DS the same. He had a choice between a $55000/year school and a $18000/year school. He chose the one we could afford without the ROTC scholarship. We did not know if he would like the military and we wanted his options to be open. We are so, so happy with his decision. We sleep well at night knowing our kids will start their life without a mountain of debt. I hope you can know the peace and joy that comes with having all the bills paid and owing nothing to anyone.
     
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  14. Pima

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    frenzy,

    In the end I think the trend you will see here from posters that have been involved in this system is that they all realize many kids do not stay with the program.
    ~ ROTC allows you to walk for free your freshmen year with no payback. Many take them up on the offer.

    Basically, either these posters as cadets or parents of cadets can tell you that they know at least 1 person that did walk.
    ~ That meant they either had to scramble for money to stay or resign themselves to the fact they would leave their dream college.

    What you will also see from posters that have been here for several years is the OMG heartbreak story. Gojira's is the one most people think about. 6 weeks prior to commissioning, (her DS had his career assignment in hand), they told him he was being disenrolled for being 6 lbs over his max weight. There was no enlistment option, instead they wanted the 143K back in a lump sum. They even hired a military attorney to fight it, but SecNav said no. They came back and said you can pay it back in 4 years...they fought that too. It was eventually taken to a 10 year repayment.

    There was a story here last year, if I recall it correctly, the cadet had stated on their original DoDMERB they used marijuana 1x, but later on (2-3 yrs later) came out with the truth that it was 3 or more times. It was sent up AFROTC chain, but HQ said....no waiver, disenroll. They were a POC scholarship and came down and slapped them with a bill.

    Final story was during PSU Sandusky issues. There was a riot at PSU, and a NROTC scholarship mid went downtown and got caught up in. He was arrested along with hundreds and hundreds of students, the charges were reduced to basically nothing, or maybe even dismissed, but the damage was done. He was disenrolled and slapped with the bill for the scholarship.

    Don't even get me started with drinking underage. Or depending on which ROTC program you will go, in regards to your major.
    ~ AFROTC if you say Tech, and on scholarship, but decide to go Non-tech, your scholarship will probably not be converted. No disenrollment, but loss of the scholarship. AFROTC is 2+2. If not selected for SFT after your sophomore year they can disenroll you...it happens.

    The point that we are all making, you go in hoping you will commission, but who knows if you will. No kid impo goes in and says I will be one of them, but many will become one of them.

    This is something you need to sit down with the folks and say...what if, I get there and hate ROTC, but love the school, can we swing it, or will you say I have to transfer?
     
  15. Sab245

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    Pima and Non Ducor hit the nail on the head there. Go to a school you can work with financially. I attend Yale, and even though I am no longer on AFROTC scholarship, I MADE SURE before coming that I could stay without that support, albeit with a higher out of pocket cost. I know we sometimes think that the advice to 'attend a school you can afford' is disheartening, but it's true. Anything that can go wrong, will wrong and you need to be sure you have a backup plan.
    I'd consider those things before considering all of these strange scholarship complications with room and board.
     

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