Car usage and a power of attorney form?

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  1. the tone

    the tone Member

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    I (non-Colorado resident) left my car, with Colorado plates, with my son to use starting his C2C year. He says he needs some sort of power of attorney form to have the car on USAFA grounds, but he wasn't clear as to why he needed it. A little early in the conversation, but can anyone give me a heads up as to why he would need it and what form that might be? I'm sure he'll get around to it sooner or later, but I'd like to get it handled as soon as possible for him. Just an FYI, the car is still titled and registered in my name, although with Colorado plates.
     
  2. Pima

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    I would assume it is because the car must be registered on base and since it is titled and registered to you, no:) t him he has no legal proof that he is allowed the car without you giving him a POA.

    Our DS got married on SJAFB last week, every guest attending had to register their car with the base for the day. They were required to provide three pieces.
    1. Registration
    2. Proof of insurance with their name on the card
    3. Drivers license

    For your DS he is missing key pieces by regs because the registration is in your name, and maybe even the insurance I.d. card too, thus no proof that he has permission to have the car.

    My assumption is it will be a specific POA with detailed info, such as the VIN, license plate, registration, etc.

    As a military wife that always had a general POA for twenty years, beware that most POAs are only valid for one year unless requesting a longer time frame.
    ~ I also had specific POAs, such as when we sold our home, those are the types that had detailed info placed in the POA.
     
  3. buffalo

    buffalo USAFA 2013

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    I remember when I went through the cadet registration process, I just needed an email from my mom saying I could keep the car at USAFA since it was purchased and titled in her name. It was nothing official, but perhaps things have changed. Hopefully your son can figure out what is actually needed.
     
  4. Pima

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    No flaming, I just wanted to add that my post was to explain why they are asking for this item.

    I get you want to be in front of this, because I am assuming a POA not only takes time out of your life, but costs $$$ too. However, as a C2C it is up to him to be in front of this, not you.

    Personally in my opinion, you gave him a generous gift of a car, I would not do squat until he contacted me. I am a cut the apron string type of Mom. IF he wants the car bad enough, he will be calling you constantly to guarantee you have done everything on time and correctly...until that time, hang back.

    I get wanting info/guidance/direction from the why perspective. I am just saying I would not be googling Legal Zoom or contacting an attorney until they took the iniatitve and contacted me regarding exactly was needed.

    Again, this is MPO and with $2.09 you can get a Starbucks coffee.
     
  5. Renegado

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    Our DS is a C3C so we don't have to worry about this yet, but we are going to transfer the car into his name for liability reasons.
     
  6. the tone

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    Thanks for the helpful answers. Car is insured by him, but I didn't want to have to switch the title nor the registration unless required to. Seems I'm required to! :biggrin: When I get it back in two years, I'll have to go thru the re-title and re-registration again, I suppose. I only see on Power of Attorney form on the DMV site, and that's probably the one he'll need.
     
  7. Stealth_81

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    Check your state's laws for selling a vehicle to immediate family. In Wisconsin it is a simple one-page form and the transaction is exempt from sales tax. It was pretty easy for me to sell my son my old truck when it was time for him to have a vehicle at the Academy.

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  8. buffalo

    buffalo USAFA 2013

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    Again, unless things have changed, you shouldn't be required to, but whatever floats your boat!
     
  9. 24601

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    My AOC just asked for year make, model and licence plate #, voila! summer temporary permit granted.

    Parentals need to let their (grown-up) kids take initiative so they don't have to keep calling mommy back home for stuff they can handle.
     
  10. aggie83

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    In most states, even if someone else has the car insured, the owner of the car can be sued. That is why we titled and registered our son's car in his name as his asset base as a cadet was small compared to ours. Your son/daughter might be a good driver (and even then things can happen) but who they lend their car out to might not be and loaning out cars is common at the USAFA. Also, most states allow the car to still be registered in your state of residence if you are attending college out of state. We just mailed the new registration tags to our cadet, and he put them on.
     
  11. kdc246

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    +1 to Stealth 81.
    I am doing this right now. We gave our DD one of our cars her C2C year (we had four). Did the title and registration transfer for insurance and liability reasons. She kept CA registration and plates. Fast forward two years, she found and bought a sports car she liked. Decided she didn't want the car we gave her anymore and wanted to return it to us (well maintained by the way). She insured both vehicles until yesterday when we made all the necessary changes. I will finish up the paperwork with DMV this morning-it needed a smog check in CA, but it was actually due-so not an unexpected expense. Paid the current registration a month early-again not unexpected. No cost to transfer the title back-since it was a familial transfer and no money exchanged hands. All I was out was time at the DMV, very easy.
     
  12. cadetmom100

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    USAA offers some of the best insurance rates I have seen for your male drivers - especially those with a ticket or two. They prefer the car to be titled in the insured's name so it may be easy just to tranfer title
     

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