CFA

Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by IrishDancer, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. IrishDancer

    IrishDancer Member

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    I'm really sorry to make one of these "how are my CFA scores" post but I'm really stressed out over my scores!! I just finished retaking my CFA for the second time (1st was at summer seminar) and I did really well.. until the run. I maxed pushups, situps, and did 2 pullups but my mile time was 8:02:eek: For the past six months I've been only running on the treadmill and had managed to get it down to 6:40 (I'm a girl) but my coach made me run it in the gym. Honestly, how much will that time hurt me? I managed to run it outside in the heat at summer seminar in 7:30!! Any advice would be appreciated!!
     
  2. vollkmc

    vollkmc Member

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    If you actually ran it in a gym (i.e. 20 laps around a basketball court) you probably lost A LOT of time in all 80 of the sharp turns.

    That being said, it looks like your hard work paid off!

    Congratulatons and good luck!
     
  3. attacklax17

    attacklax17 Prospective

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    Yeah, running in the gym does increase time a good amount. Way back when I'd run it in elementary school my times were 8:30 average. First time I ever ran it outside without any practice it was 7:40 something.

    There is not a lot you can really do to cut your score by a lot indoors but you can always come off each corner and explode into a faster pace then repeat.

    not sure this helped, but Good Luck! :thumb:
     
  4. FeartheGoat

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    I'm doing my CFA this weekend and I specifically told my coach that I do not want to run the mile on a basketball court which was the original idea because our track is so far from the gym. Running in a gym has to add a lot of time to your mile because you can never get into full stride. If at all possible run it on a track. Good luck.
     
  5. MIDNDAD

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    Irishdancer, if you took CFA at SS did you pass or fail it? If you passed it would noted on your application website. The CFA is just one of 4 parts of the overall application process. It tends to be a pass/fail measurement. If you got a passing score then you checked off that box. Trying to improve your scores is fine but has little effect in the application process as a whole.
     
  6. jennyp

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    Admissions office told my son 11/08 that re-taking the CFA and doing better would help Whole Candidate Score. He, too, had passed at Summer Seminar. I would say that if you intend to re-take, the scores need to be markedly better to make it worth re-submitting.
     
  7. Memphis9489

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    I currently have two sons at the Naval Academy. Both of them are very tall and thin. Although they are good athletes (baseball pitchers), neither of them has much upper body strength. The pull-ups were particularly challenging for them. Trying to get 6'4" of body over that bar with those skinny arms was nearly impossible. One of them, at the Summer Seminar only did 2 marginal pull-ups. The other (who did not go to Summer Seminar) did about as poorly.

    They both got LOAs and are currently enjoying their Academy life.

    That just shows how important the CFA is.

    In real estate they say, "Location, location, location."

    For admission into the academy I would say, "Academics, academics, academics."

    By that I mean your GPA, class standing, and ACT/SAT scores. If you are vastly superior in these categories, have a few activities on your record, and are not a complete spaz - you'll get in (provided you don't have a DUI on your record.)
     
  8. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    For USNA, key CFA events are pushups, crunches and mile run. For most candidates, the CFA is unlikely to make or break you provided your scores are somewhere around the average across the board. (I've posted the averages provided by USNA in the sticky at the top of this board.)

    The CFA starts to take on increased importance if you're not active in h.s. sports as this is the only measure USNA has of you physical fitness.

    The above said, if you feel your original CFA was sub-par -- not close to the average, you may want to retake IF you can significantly improve your scores (e.g., at least 30 secs faster in the mile). A marginal improvement really won't make that much difference.
     
  9. EWNordy248

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    Terrible BB Throw...

    I haven't exactly played a sport that involved the coordination of throwing muscles (i'll just say that to start!)... I've been a CC and track runner for the past six years...

    For starters, here are the scores that were submitted to USNA:
    BB Throw: 39 ft:eek:
    Pullups: 12
    Shuttle Run: 9.0 Seconds
    Pushups: 50
    Situps:88
    Mile Run: 5:16

    So, I passed the CFA from USNA (I even called to make sure everything was OK with my file at admissions, I thought they might have missed it!), so I technically don't have to retake it, and should be fine... but i still have a pretty poor BB Throw.

    Should I retake it? Given the time that I have to get it resubmitted (which isn't that much), I don't know if I would be able to replicate some of the scores (like the mile, since I am now covered in ~2ft of snow...)

    I am really worried about my overall score. I know that I did bad on one, but also know that I am WAY above average on others (i.e. the mile run). What I was wondering is this... will USNA look at this and toss me, or will it be OK? I was good enough to pass the CFA (by whatever margin, i don't know), but do you think I'm good enough for USNA??

    Thank you in advance!
     
  10. JHORNET44

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    You must also remember that on a treadmill you can set the speed of your mile, and just have to keep up with it. When running in a gym or track you have total control over your time.
     
  11. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    USNA has said that they have never not admitted someone b/c of the BB throw. Remember that the CFA is a combo of events such that all three SAs are satisfied. The BB throw is important, I think, to USMA. But it's not to USNA. So, if you do well in the other events, don't retake b/c of the throw.
     
  12. EWNordy248

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    :wink:I guess that will explain why I failed for USMA! Thanks, that makes me feel a lot better!
    Guess I won't be throwing any grenades any time soon:wink:
     
  13. grtkidmom

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    Thanks USNA 1985, my son scored above average on all CFA requirements except BB throw which was scored as average. He was considering retaking the CFA to improve throw.
     
  14. navy2016

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    which parts of the test does admissions weigh heavier on?

    pull-ups vs push-ups

    i do have thin freshman friend who can do 15 pull-ups and around 35 push-ups. Me, on the other hand, being more of a bulky raw power strength type person can only manage about 7 pull-ups but capable of around 45 push ups.
    I should be able to do well on B-ball throw as i play pickup basketball games for the past 2 years on weekly basis for fun-not fast, mainly just shoot and better at defense.

    I weigh 165 and been working out with weights.
    bench: 155-160(estimated as calculate based on number of reps of 135s)
    standing curl: 70
     
  15. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Based on what USNA told the BGOs last year, don't do it. For others out there, if your pushups, crunches and/or run are below average, definitely consider working out and retaking.
     

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