Chance me!!!

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  1. hjford

    hjford New Member

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    3.7 gpa
    26 act

    Eagle Scout (involved in leadership through Boy Scouts
    National youth leadership training
    4 year high school athlete 2 yeAr varsity
    President of two clubs in high school
    Involved in 5 clubs in high school
    Orchestra student
    8 ap courses in high school
    4 year honor roll student
    Engineering award in hs

    Physical fitness test

    6:16 mile
    60 sit ups
    62 push ups
     
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  2. goaliedad

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    A couple of missing items to consider.

    1) Army, Navy, AF?
    2) School list. As you read through the threads here, you will notice that there is a greater chance of getting an in-state public vs. private school scholarship for AROTC.
     
  3. hjford

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    Sorry about that

    Army rotc
    I applied to and got into Iowa state and Michigan state
    I am waiting on ohio state
    I live in Illinois
     
  4. Marist College ROTC

    Marist College ROTC Member

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    2 seasons of Varsity Sports and 26 ACT. Both are on the low side for a 4 year Scholarship to a private school. You have a decent chance at a 4 year to a public school. If you do not get a scholarship from the HS Board process, you can always compete for an on-campus scholarship.
     
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    Thank you

    Thank you sir I appreciate it I have applied to all public schools. Thank you again for your quick response.
     
  6. kinnem

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    Right, but none are in-state where you would have a better shot at a scholarship. Even OOS publics can be expensive and some are priced almost like privates for OOS students. Not familiar with the schools you applied to though so I don't know if this applies to them.
     
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    Thank you

    My first choice is iowa state which is 20000 for tuition which is not to bad compared to many other schools. If that is the case what do u think my chances are.
     
  8. goaliedad

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    I remember 3 years ago corresponding with the parent of a OOS 3-yr AD scholarship recipient about why the 3-yr AD. It seems that at that time (things may have changed since), they were equating 4-yr instate with 3-yr OOS. If a battalion at a public had 4 in-state scholarships available to it, they could convert some to 3-yr AD for OOS. The money came out about the same was what I remember that parent telling me of how it was explained. That being said, the battalion actually upgraded it to a 4-yr later on when they ended up with a little more funding available.

    YMMV
     
  9. Pima

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    hjford,

    I understand you think it is cheap, but honestly from an IS tuition perspective it is equivalent to a private or OOS. Tuition is only 1/2, add in R &B, I am betting you are in the high 30's per yr. IS tuition, at least in MD, VA, and NC runs half that for a yr. IS for tuition, and R & B is under 20K. You need to question where you are going to come up with R & B even if you got the scholarship..it could be 18-20K per yr. Trust me, it will also go up every yr too. DS1(OOS) entered at 28K, graduated and it was 41K . DD (IS) entered and it was 15, it is now 20, 2 yrs later. Expect 10-15% increase per yr. FAFSA in 6 yrs has not increased, it is still 5500, which it was back in 07. Merit packages from colleges typically come in bulk sum, divided over 4 yrs. They don't up the ante because costs are increased.

    You don't even know if you will like ROTC. I don't know ROTC commission rate, but it is something I would ask the unit. If 100 cadets enter as an MSI, but only 40 commission, than you need to ask financially what will you do if you are one of the 60.

    I say this with kindness, they aren't asking for an IS on your list for grins and giggles, they have a budget to live within regarding scholarships.

    I agree with Marist, a 26 ACT is low as an OOS for Ohio and Michigan. I don't know if you realize most state schools will act like a private for OOS residents. VA has a regulation that all public universities can accept no more than 25% from OOS. NC and MD also have those regs, but I believe it is 30%. When you have a school like those two which are nationally known, you have to expect a high level of OOS applicants.

    At this point all you can do is make sure plan A, B and C are in place.
     
  10. kinnem

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    +1 but I would add it's probably not too late to add an in-state school to your list and apply to it. However, you better hurry.
     
  11. goaliedad

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    Tough part about being from Illinois is that at UIUC OP would be at the 25th percentile - not a certain bet from admissions. At the other Illinois public institutions, OP would be more like the 75th or higher percentile. And given OP's desire to be at large state U, this may be a problem.

    OP just has to understand the trade-offs and the consequences thereof.

    Admission from ISU and MSU (where OP would be in upper half) were pretty much guaranteed. OSU OTOH is about the same as UIUC - both 25th percentile situations.
     
  12. Marist College ROTC

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    If you are considering changing the rank order for your school choices, do it now. Changes must be completed by tonight to be effective for the January board.
     
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    Goaliedad, you have far more insight into these schools than I would ever care to have. OP's choices makes sense then. Was just pointing out there is another option other than waiting but as you point out it may not be the right option for OP. In any case, even if OP doesn't get a scholarship there is always the College Programmer route and hopefully scholarship dollars from other sources. More than one way to skin this cat.
     
  14. goaliedad

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    Definitely agree that there is more than one way to skin this cat. Just trying to make sense of OP's choices and what the likely outcomes might be to relieve any anxiety there might be. It would seem from the postings of many around here, the student who does well in his/her studies and participates at a high level in AROTC has a very good chance of being awarded a campus scholarship at many public institutions. The game definitely is not over once the national scholarships are all handed out. It is all too easy to fall into that trap and giving up.
     
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    I both agree and can vouch for that from personal experience, or my son's personal experience anyway :smile:
     

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