"Chances" of earning a AROTC or AFROTC scholarship

Discussion in 'ROTC' started by Sutter93, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. Sutter93

    Sutter93 Member

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    If this looks familiar, I just copied and pasted it from my chance thread in CC. :wink:

    GPA, unweighted 9th/10th/FS 11th 3.45
    weighted - 3.73

    SATs M 720, CR 690, W 700

    My Class rank is barely in the top 20%, I go to a fairly competitive public high school.

    Extracurriculars-Captain of girl's soccer team,
    -Officer of Chinese club(pres) and Korean Club(secretary)
    -Involved in Red Cross, Academic Decathlon, NHS & CSF, marching band
    -Over 300 hrs of volunteer at various places and about 60 hours so far from a hospital
    - I also work part time at a fast food restaurant


    Received a 4 on my AP Euro test and a 5 on AP Bio (although I got B's&C's in the classes)

    My grades, seems pretty dismal compared to the CC-ers here, but I've been having an upward trend. My grades go up, semester by semester. This semester (first sem. of Junior year), I received only TWO B's. In APUSH and Pre-Calculous Honors, (I expected myself to get A's in those classes and instead get B's in AP Physics and AP Composition...) . I was very disappointed by my pre-cal grade, it was a 88%..

    I don't believe I've really shown how strong I am/can be in math. I've only been able to pull off B's in classes, but I am going to work really hard for an A next semester. Do first semester senior year grades go into consideration for ROTC scholarships as well? What about SAT II scores?

    I understand ROTC scholarships are very competitive, but what are my chances of earning an AROTC scholarship, any AFROTC, or a NROTC. Are you in competition with others in the nation or with those in your region/school you're applying to(kinda like the SA's)?
     
  2. educateme

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    they care a great deal about athletic activities. I don't see any in your post. What kind of sports/athletic engagement do you have?

    In terms of competition, there are two factors. You should be good enough to be able to get into the school the battalion is serving. During last couple of years, they had a lot of scholarship money, so in many schools, if you were good enough to get into that school, you had very good odds of getting 4 year national scholarship, and in some cases even a local scholarship after you already enrolled at the school.

    However, money is tight now, so this year, there maybe not enough money for all the kids who are admitted to the school, AND want to join the ROTC program. IN that case, you have to be good enough to get into the school, and better than many of the kids who get into that school and want to get a scholarship for the rotc unit there.

    This is why some kids will compromise their school choice (pick a safety school rather than pick the best school that accepts them) and get the ROTC scholarship.

    For the purpose of getting a scholarship, your GPA and SAT are fine. No problem there. Conditional on that being good enough for the school you aspire to.

    In general, there is a lot more money for the Army ROTC scholarship than any other branch.

    Good luck.
     
  3. Sutter93

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    I think you just missed the part where I put that I am captain of the girl's varsity soccer team. I forgot to mention varsity though.

    And thank you!!
     
  4. aglages

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    Your chances are zero if you don't apply. If you apply to all three your chances vary depending on which branch you're applying to, what your intended major is, and possibly which colleges you want to attend.

    You compete for ROTC programs on national level (not by region), however your approval may be influenced by the competition within the ROTC units at the colleges you wish to attend. Each ROTC unit has a limit to the number of scholarship students that they can have in their unit. For instance, if you list electrical engineering as your intended major, and also list the 7 colleges (Army) that you want to attend; it is possible that on a national level your "package' is good enough for a 4 year scholarship but at MIT, Stanford and the other five colleges that you wanted to attend....you were not competitive for the limited available scholarships. Whew! I hope I explained that clearly enough.

    Bottom line is the stats that you have listed all look pretty good. There are others that you don't have (such as PT test, essays and personal interview) that also impact the acceptance process. All I can tell you is that if it is something you know you want to do, then start early (May/June) and give it your best shot. You might also spend some time learning the differences between the various military branches and trying to determine which would be the best fit for you. Good Luck!:thumb:
     
  5. singaporemom

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    Apply early, so you can get your file in front of the first board at the end of summer. That is every candidate's best option. Your file will be seen as many times as possible...every time the board meets. Research the ROTC programs to decide on major and schools. AFROTC is a bit more difficult to get, especially if you are in need of a Type 1 (full tuition).

    Also, apply to the service academies summer session (now)....this will give you a 'taste' of academy life, and will also get you into the DoDMERB system. The DoDMERB system is your medical physical which you must pass. If you are a qualified candidate for a Service Academy, you will be sent for your physical asap. As opposed to applying for ROTC, you won't be asked to take a physical until after you receive the scholarship.

    And, if you attend the summer session, you will have a great experience to include on your resume.

    GO FOR IT!:thumb:
     
  6. Lesrunmore

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    Sutter93 I am going to probably be labeled a kill joy or run off of this forum but I wold like to give you just a dose of what you're competing against out there as far as colleges go. First off, how were your PSATs? Are you National Merit Level? Aglages mentioned MIT, Stanford etc.If those are your aspirations here's a reality check: last year my daughter wanted Stanford more than anything. She was National Merit, 2350 on her SATs, number 11 in a class of 650, 5's on 6 AP tests, 3rd individual (not team) in the state of Texas for Honors Level Academic Decathlon, captain of varsity cross country, 3 years all area french horn in marching band and orchestra and worked as a waitress. She was flat out rejected. If those schools are ones to which you aspire, bring something unique and special to them. They have lots of kids like my daughter who apply. I tell you this because I work in a counselor's office in a high school where I help seniors prepare for and apply to college. I visit with college recruiters, and military recruiters actually, all the time. As far as your ROTC scholarship creds, you look competitive, but I would point out in any essay the upward trajectory of your grades, and probably mention it in the interview as well to make sure it is noticed. It's hard to say because I thought my son, a current senior, was the perfect NROTC candidate, his stats are very similar to his sister's above, but it took a few boards for him to get his scholarship, so who knows? Sorry to be such a downer!
     
  7. aglages

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    I don't think you're a "kill joy" for relating your experiences. I would suggest that the OP wasn't asking about her college chances but instead was asking her ROTC chances. I used some of the most competitive colleges as an example of how her college choices might affect her ROTC chances.

    Did your daughter also apply for any of the ROTC programs? As for you son, what was his intended major? I don't necessarily know that not being selected by the first board means that you are not one of the top candidates, it may be that other factors were involved in your son's case.

    BTW - I am sincerely sorry that your daughter did not gain acceptance to her dream school (I have a senior daughter currently going through the application process). Is she happy where she is now?

    Edit: I read your post about both of your children being admitted to Notre Dame. Congratulations!
     
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  8. Just_A_Mom

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    Your SAT's are terrific! You are strong in math, your 720 SAT proves that. Captain of the Varisty Soccer team as a junior - nicely done. Speaking for Army ROTC - I would say your chances are 100% to any school you get accepted to. Apply with confidence and pick your schools carefully.
    Do you have any specific colleges in mind? A major?
     
  9. Sutter93

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    @Lesrummore - Don't worry, I understand that you are just trying to give me some perspective. I don't know what else to say about your daughter, but I'm sure all her achievements did not go to waste. It was surprising to hear that she did not get accepted to Stanford.

    When I was younger, I dreamed of attending Stanford, UC Berkeley, Yale, all that. But I realized that I wasn't willing to work hard enough for those schools. I also don't think a service academy MAY BE right for me either, and I'm so glad that this forum has helped me realize that(I'm still thinking though). I do still want to become an officer after graduation, so the ROTC route makes sense. So I'm aiming for more realistic targets, such as UC Davis -- currently my dream school. UC San Diego is next on my list. If I do happen to receive a NROTC orAROTC scholarship, I might as well go out of state, but I want to research some good, respectable engineering schools. Does anyone have any suggestions?

    If I happen to receive the AF ROTC type 2 or 7, I will attend either UC Davis or UC San Diego.

    I was also considering Emrby-Riddle, I'm planning to go into Aerospace Engineering or Civil Engineering.
     
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    My daughter just got accepted into Embry Riddle. It's her second choice after the AFAcademy. From what I hear, it's a great school with a great AFROTC program. I'm not sure about other branches.
     
  11. RKO123

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    What will your daughter be majoring in if she goes there? I was accepted there as well, and it's my first choice school for the AROTC scholarship. It's a great school from what I hear too and I hope your daughter will be able to go there if she does not attend the AFA.
     
  12. Sutter93

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    I am a little confused about the fact that Embry-Riddle has more than one campus. I am not sure where their campuses are located and what's the difference between the campuses.
     
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    I'll send you a private message explaining it all for you. I don't want to make this thread drift off topic.
     
  14. guardianvg

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    My daughter wants to major in air traffic management. She has nerves of steel! Her scholarship application goes up before the board for the first time next week. Embry is a great plan B for her. Good luck to you too!:smile:

    What will you be majoring in?
     
  15. RKO123

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    I have been accepted to Embry-Riddle in Daytona and I will major in aeronautical science. I'm hoping to get a NROTC or AROTC scholarship, and hopefully I'll hear something on monday from this month's AROTC board. I'm very excited and nervous. :smile:
     
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    I have also been accepted to Embry-Riddle to study aerospace engineering. I live about 35 miles from the campus. I really want to go to AFA but plan B is either Georgia Tech or ERAU with (hopefully!) AFROTC or NROTC. Lets all pray for good news this week, seems like all the boards are meeting.
     
  17. RKO123

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    Good luck bulldog31, I'll be crossing my fingers for you, me, and everyone who is "patiently" :rolleyes: waiting for good news this week!
     
  18. bulldog31

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    Patiently???? Lol!!!
     
  19. RKO123

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    Notice the quotes and eye rolling smiley around patiently? Haha
     

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