Chances of Getting A 4-year Scholarship?

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  1. fish27

    fish27 New Member

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    I'm a junior with a 3.4 GPA, 1920 on the SATs (first try), 29 on the ACTs (first try). I am taking all honors or AP classes and will be doing the same next year. I will have been on varsity crew for 3 seasons (possibly captain next year), varsity snowboarding for 3 seasons (Captain 1 year), and 4 other JV sports. I have done about 20 hours of community service every year. I have also held four different part time jobs since I was 14. I'm also a girl and I don't know if that helps. Realistically, what are the odds of me receiving a four-year scholarship?

    Please and Thank you

    P.S. I have already started the application anyway, I just would like to know my odds because my college counselors don't know.
     
  2. Pima

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    Which ROTC are you asking about? It does matter.

    For example:

    AFROTC considers your HS record through the end of your junior yr., exception is the SAT/ACT. Your sr yr does not matter.
    AFROTC only takes the best sitting SAT/ACT, it does not superscore
    AFROTC looks at your intended major. Tech vs non-tech
    AFROTC scholarship is only tied to the cadet, college choice is not a factor.

    Is that 3.4 uwcga? If so what is your wcgpa?

    What is your SAT break down....AFROTC doesn't care about the writing portion.
     
  3. fish27

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    I am asking about AROTC
     
  4. goaliedad

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    School list, please...

    Cadet Command gives far more in-state public scholarships than others. Additionally, how do you rank as compared to the other applicants to that school? You should be in the top quartile of applicants to a school to be considered competitive for a scholarship to that school. ROTC scholarship cadets tend to be significantly better than average students at their schools.
     
  5. fish27

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    I will be applying to the University of Washington (state), the University of Vermont, the University of Virginia, the Citadel, and Norwich University.

    I am above the average for all the schools except for Virginia, but it's at the bottom of my list so I'm not very concerned about being accepted.
     
  6. goaliedad

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    SMCs are a different class of competitive as almost all applicants to the school apply for the scholarship. That being said, in-state at UVM is a good target. OOS publics are iffy (depending on the OOS tuition rate as compared with in-state).
     
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    Does it help that I plan on going into Nursing? Or does major really have no effect?
     
  8. goaliedad

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    Nursing is a separate scholarship pool. Aglahad should chime in sometime soon but the general advice I've seen given is go to the school where your GPA is not in jeopardy as Nursing has a killer class and rotation load.
     
  9. Aglahad

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    Nursing has a HUGE effect on scholarship allocation.

    Nursing scholarships are usually easier to get BUT harder to keep. Your stats look pretty good, however it comes down to the ROOs nursing mission at your desired school.

    From you list, I can tell you that UW's nursing school is not easy to get into though, well over 1000 apply for a few slots each year.
     
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    Just chiming in here with research I did this last year: UW does not have direct admittance to their nursing program. You would have to apply at the end of your sophomore year and like Aglahad said (and living in Washington I'm sure you already know) it is extremely competitive to get into. So, if you got the scholarship from AROTC to UW for nursing and then did not get into their nursing school, would you be willing to serve as something other than a nurse? That is something to consider. In comparison, UVA has direct admittance to their nursing school; as does UCLA, U Michigan- Ann Arbor, etc. etc.
     
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    Dumb question I suppose but here goes anyway... If one was awarded a Nursing scholarship from any ROTC program, but didn't get into the nursing school, would one lose the scholarship? My own guess is yes, but thought I'd ask the collective wisdom here.
     
  12. Jcleppe

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    You may want to do some research regarding the University of Washington. With the stats you listed you would be a long shot reach for admission to the UW. An AROTC Scholarship to the UW will be equally competitive.

    Your stats would be in better line with Washington State University.

    Just curious, you listed the UW as the "State" school, bit you list your location in Vermont, are you a residence of Washington State.
     
  13. Pima

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    Debbie Downer here.

    Do you understand UVA is considered a public Ivy? IS residents would not get a 1st look with your stats. Sorry, and I mean that honestly. Caveat: Do you have a hook for admissions?

    I think you are setting yourself up for trouble if you put UVA on your list. Reason why? AROTC may give you the scholarship to UVA via AROTC, but UVA may reject you for admissions.

    That means you would have to ask for the scholarship to be transferred to another college.

    I would place a realistic reach. UVA is not realistic, maybe VCU or George Mason. I didn't put VT in the mix because it is an SMC.

    VA has a legislative perspective for OOS applicants, mandated by the state. 70-75% of all incoming MUST be IS regarding acceptance. You are not a VA resident.

    Take time during the summer and investigate the colleges.

    Best of luck, and thank you for wanting to defend this great nation.
     
  14. fish27

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    I am currently being recruited by the rowing coaches for both UVA and UW. Otherwise, I know those that schools would be most likely out of reach. Also, 3.4 is an UW GPA, my W GPA is 3.97
     
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    Being a recruited athlete will most likely help, the Crew coaches at the UW have great pull with admissions considering the teams reputation.

    UW looks mainly at UW GPA's first and Weighted as a tie breaker. Recruited athletes, especially for the Marquee Sports, won't have these issues.

    At the UW, Crew is a Marquee Sport......just ask the Harvard Men's team. Go Dawgs.
     
  16. Aglahad

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    Essentially yes, BUT many ROTC programs have a good relationship with nursing schools so they save a few slots for cadets if they meet the requirements.
     
  17. goaliedad

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    The bigger question at schools that admit to their nursing program after the first 2 years is do they hold spots for recruited athletes? And it is a fair question to ask the head coach if they are recruiting you. If there is ANY wiggle in their answer, the answer should be interpreted as NO.

    You also take a risk during the first 2 years of injury getting you out of the rowing program and losing that "guarantee" of admission to nursing.

    I think it is wiser to look at other rowing schools with nursing programs that admit as freshmen. It simplifies the deal with the coach. Particularly a school where you are competitive with other ROTC scholarship applicants. This is important because the 4-year Nursing scholarship is more important than the athletic scholarship. You can get a nursing scholarship once you arrive on campus, but that depends upon the availability of NURSING scholarships in that BN or BGE. It is a smaller pool than the general scholarship.

    Simply put, the deal to the coach is get me admitted to the nursing school up front and I'll bring a ROTC scholarship. That is if you apply to a lower cost public where your ROTC scholarship chances are better.

    University of Tennessee comes to mind here. Has a good women's crew, nursing admitted as freshmen, OOS tuition isn't horribly expensive, and your stats are very competitive for admission (which actually makes it more likely that you will do better once admitted - key to KEEPing your ROTC scholarship).

    From this parent of an athlete (D3) who went through the recruitment vs where is my scholarship, coaches are most worried about getting recruits who are going to be able to keep academically eligible. AVAILability is the most important type of ability. Second issue is what is it going to cost me (both in terms of scholarship for D1 and in terms of pulling strings for admissions)?

    You might want to talk with the ROO at the various schools (including UT if you have an interest) to see what this year's freshman scholarship class had in terms of stats (GPA, ACT, etc.). That will tell you whether you can say you will bring ROTC scholarship to the coach. Plus the ROO will be the one who assures the coach that yes you can do ROTC and Nursing and Crew. BTW, it is my understanding that UT has had varsity athletes in their ROTC in the past - track people IIRC.

    Bottom line - get the ROTC thing nailed down first - it is your future. If you can find a school where you are highly likely to get the scholarship (based upon this year's results), you have a superior bargaining position with regards to admissions to nursing.
     
  18. Jcleppe

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    Goliedad gives great advice.

    Regarding the UW I was speaking just about admissions.

    Following the above advice is a good idea, you will need to find that balance of Admission to the school, ROTC Scholarship opportunity, and Nursing requirements. Sorry, I missed that you were looking into nursing.
     

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