Discussion in 'Academy/Military News' started by 1191, Apr 2, 2009.
What does everyone think about the Army changing uniforms and eliminating the Dress Greens?
I seen the 'new' dress uniform on my son's recruiter and I have to say, very sharp lookin'.
They look sharp, but don't you think they look very similiar to the Marines? The enlisted uniforms look almost identical to the AF when the jacket is off. I also don't think the womens pants look very flattering, but than again when have they ever made a uniform to look flattering on a woman!
Maybe the online photos don't do justice to show the difference
I have never liked the dress green uniform. I am happy to see them go.
That's true TPG, but they just keep on trying don't they
To this day Bullet and I have different opinions about the Marine uniform...he believes it is the epitome of the best uniforms. I on the other hand, always ask why don't the pants match the jacket?
I will say this, the Marines must keep their ad agency close to their vest, b/c nothing will send more shivers up your body than their commercials. Ask the avg Ameican what comes after the Few, the Proud...they will answer the MARINES...say ABOVE to the AVG American for the AF and they have no clue that the answer is ALL
I'm no fan of the Army Greens, but this thing looks like a Mall Security guard. In the quest to get rid of the Army Green which was pretty unpopular- the Army dress Blue uniform just went from being a good looking uniform to something that Wackenhut would be embarrased to be seen in. By a large majority most respondants in the Army Times polls wanted to return to something close to the old WW2 Officers "Pinks &Greens" with a belted jacket (not so unlike the Marine Greens). Instead they got design by committee and trashed a good uniform (blues). The SMA insists that this is a popular design but with who? Go onto the Army Times website and then go to see the number of unfavorable comments on this thing- must be in the hundreds of thousands by now. There are about 6 guys and a dog infavor of this uniform but you wouldn't say the numbers are overwhelmingly in favor- and especially of the womens design where they have badges pinned almost at the waist line. Perhaps the real agenda was a job creation one for the clothing design industry because for sure they will be back to the drawing board on this puppy! Meanwhile the Marines have changed Greens once in 75 years- (when they got rid of the Khaki pants in the late 60s and have the green pants with a class B uniform &that's about it). I'm not a Marine but they do a few things worth emulating for the Army and this sure would be one of them!! This is what comes of having a permanently constituted uniform board.
Just putting this out there; it looks like someone mated the Marine and Navy jacket and tacked it onto Air Force pants. Don't get me wrong, I think all the dress uniforms are awe inspiring when seen on a proud service member, but I sort of like the idea that when the average American sees a man or women in uniform can tell what service they belong to right away.
I am guessing a lot of people that are the Averge Joe, will automatically assume that they are in the Marines.
Bruno, I agree they will be back to the drawing board in a few years. It reminds me of the AF when they changed their blues, so many people hated the 1st new design that they did not replace their old blues until they were forced...for most that meant they changed right over to the current blues. It also remind me of when McPeak changed the flight suit, with that stupid seam and the zippers that had no purpose on the side. The propaganda was everybody loved it, but in reality every guy was running in and grabbing the old ones before having to take the new one (I recall Bullet who wears a 42R, taking even 44 L instead of that design)...A few yrs later, the seams and pockets were gone and they were back to the original design.
The minute the Army is rushing down the doors to buy them, will be the minute they say OOPS, maybe we made a mistake!
That looks like a WM.. not a sailor
why does the navy want to look like marines ???
and this Army uniform looks Air Forceish
This looks mismatched....
"Paul Blart- Mall Cop" would feel at home in this uniform. It's just really sad. The design process must have been like a bar room brainstorming session gone wild. Every suggestion that anyone ever had got thrown onto the thing in the spirit of "no idea is a bad idea". For almost 50 years nobody has liked the green class A uniform, but to go from pedestrian to pathetic seems like a pretty poor change. I'm glad I'm retired and never have to put this thing on but I sure hope that they check out the Army times and listen to their "constitutients" and come to their senses before the wear out date and relook at this one.
I suspect that this will follow the trajectory of the "American Airlines look-alike" uniform that the AF tried to field in the mid 90's (no breast pockets, silver rank stripes on the sleeve etc...) that Pima mentioned above. If this ever actually makes it to mandatory implementation date- I am sure there will be a run on them at the clothing sales store because I suspect that the vast majority will be holding off until the very last second before plopping down the bucks to buy this thing.
Wait...the army's going blue and the navy's going gray? Anyone else confused?
Well I guess the AF now has to change to green, this way all the military members have to do is go to their sister services and buy their old uniforms. It seems like they are playing the game everybody take one step to the right!
I suspect you're right. However, there are people that will buy them now b/c they are forced to...all of those O-4, O-5 and O-6's going to PME will need them for school!
wish they'd just leave it to the old distinctive colors. air force = blue. army = pickle suit. marines = bamf. navy = white/black/blue/everything in between
i always liked the distinguished colors of each branch.. things are getting way too confusing. leave em alone, they're fine!
wouldnt mind goin back to ww2 era uniforms, though.. THOSE were sharp
and....Coast Guard blue.
Coast Guard won't be changing its uniform significantly any time soon.
Yeah they were
Back in the stone age when I was a kid my Dad had an old set of WWII Air Corps "Pinks" in the cellar. They were a really neat looking uniform. In ROTC we used the Army "Tropical Worsted Khaki" made from the same material as the Palm Beach Suit. I think they were another WWII throwback. In hot weather they were comfortable and looked almost exactly like the new Navy "retro" Tan Class-A Uniform. The old 505's wrinkled on the hanger. We we were issued the khaki 1505's which held a crease for about three days if you didn't move. When the 1550's (powder blue shirt) came out I was an instructor and we all bought them because they held the crease for about a week longer than the 1505's. They also looked sharp with the Navy Blue trousers, Blue Windbreaker and Garrison Cap. I think the Air Force changed the shirt to one with eppeletts(sp) and rank insignia which looks a lot better than the sown on sleeve chevrons. "Beaking Starch" in the old fatigues was a great experience and a right of passage. If I remember correctly wearing fatigues, in public, off base was a No No. Traveling to and from work in a car was OK but don't even get caught out of the car in the cleaners. I hate the new Camo's for public travel and seeing Troops in transit in fatigues is a shock. I know it is more comfortable for travel but I always thought Class-A looked better in the airport.
I honestly have no idea why the HELL the Navy would pick up a khaki shirt for enlisted. First off, it makes them look like Marines, which they ain't. Second, khaki has always been the color for the officers and chiefs, so even that distinction is now gone.
The blue trousers with the grey shirt looks OK, but I fail to see why they didn't make it blue or white. Probably some dip-dunk bureacrat justifying their salaries.
Regarding the Army dress blue uniform, wearing that uniform with the trousers bloused over boots is akin to the proverbial tits on a he-hog; it just doesn't fly. "Dress uniform" and "boots" do not go together under any circumstances.
Finally, I continue to DESPISE the decision to give all Army personnel a beret, the traditional symbol of elite forces. I am particularly ticked off at the brain-dead decision to make them BLACK berets, which were once the sole and well-earned symbol of an Army Ranger. All the Army did by making everyone wear it is to make our troops look like a bunch of gay French cooks dressed up for Bastille Day.
I, too, wish they'd bring back the WWII khaki uniforms for the Navy, and keep the corresponding uniforms for the other services. MUST the military continue to keep playing Versace vs. Armani every few years?
Don't even get me started on the brilliant idea to issue USN personnel grey and blue digital-camo BDU's for use aboard ship. Yeah, like that's gonna help mask the ships detection signature, and will work SO WELL if/when someone goes overboard.
It is tradtion, PARATROOPERS are authorized to wear the black combat boots with their ASU's.
I betcha that if anyone on this forum posted that the Navy white bell bottoms with the bib fronts and the white blouse and neckerchief make sailors look like a bunch of homos they would be banned.
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