CIET summer 2015

Jcleppe, you just brought up a good point that hadn't occurred to me before. My son is a freshman on a 3-yr AD scholarship. When he first arrived on campus, he was told that they used to automatically upgrade 3-yr cadets to 3.5 or 4yr. However, because of budget cuts, they are waiting a least a semester before upgrading anyone so that they have a better chance to observe the cadet in action. Therefore, it sounds like he can't even apply for CULP for the summer after freshman year, since he's not even contracted yet and the application window closes on Oct. 31st. I guess I didn't realize that they had to be contracted in order to attend (although that would make sense).

Project GO would be an option for your DS. He should apply if interested.
 
Project GO would be an option for your DS. He should apply if interested.

Am I correct in the understanding that Project GO is more centered around language and CULP is more centered around cultural understanding? If Project GO is geared towards language, does the cadet already have to have some level of competency in the language of the country where he's going? My DS has only had two years of Spanish in a classroom environment (no practical or "situational" learning).
 
Project GO does have a language study component, he can specify assignment choice by international/domestic programs and by language. Don't think Spanish is one of them. It is also not an AROTC specific program
so he would meet other cadets as well as midshipmen if he were chosen for the program.

http://www.rotcprojectgo.org/
 
Project GO does have a language study component, he can specify assignment choice by international/domestic programs and by language. Don't think Spanish is one of them. It is also not an AROTC specific program
so he would meet other cadets as well as midshipmen if he were chosen for the program.

http://www.rotcprojectgo.org/

Excellent! Thanks for the information.
 
son is a newly contracted MS1 and I think he is applying to Project Go and CULP and seeing how things land---though I never really know anything for sure..
 
Pretty sure Cajuncarrier's DS was an MSI and had a CULP mission this past summer...

Yes!! DS did attend a CULP mission this summer as a MSI. He absolutely had a time of his life!! Loved it.

Now as a MSII, he received the email that he can't go on another one.. Bummer.. He was so looking forward to it.

So ABSOLUTELY apply as a MSI. He was the only one on his mission, but there were plenty at Knox that he met.
 
As always not every cadet will have the opportunity to attend CULP or Summer training schools, though there is a push to have more cadets attend CULP.
Very true - we got a memo directly from our PMS requiring all contracted cadets to apply (I think that mostly means MSI's and MSII's).

Did anyone else hear about the CIET start date? Back at the beginning of this school year, cadre told us that that wouldn't be instated this summer (at least not for all the MSII's). I haven't heard anything since then ....
 
Bull, could you please explain the XO positions? Im not familiar with that. Thanks

Sure, most people aren't as it isn't advertised anywhere. The Mission Commander's have the option to have a Cadet as an XO for their CULP mission. I don't think there is any certain requirement as far as what MS level can hold the position, though all of the one's I talked to at Knox were all LDAC grads and had completed MS4 year. Most were completion cadets that had a semester or two left in school and were asked by cadre members from their school to come along as an XO. There really isn't anything set on what the position entails as it all depends on how the MC utilizes the person, but they aren't tied to a specific CULP team and will usually spend the entire length of the CULP mission for that country in-country. I was an XO this past summer and spent roughly 3 months in-country. I tagged along with the different teams on some days (there were 4 over the time I was there) and did some of the stuff they did, but I also spent a lot of time working at the embassy working on contracts for our drivers, hotels, and various other things that the teams needed. Due to the security restrictions of the embassy for the country we were in, every time the teams were interested in traveling around the country on various excursions, I made sure the itinerary's and security stuff was taken care of through the regional security officer at the embassy. I also did a bunch of other boring stuff prior to the actual start of the mission tracking the status of each cadet on each team and making sure they had everything completed so that they could go. I was also a part-time tour guide for the new teams when they arrived in country.

I don't think that anybody that's done this has the same experience as any of the other XO's, but it was a neat opportunity and I got to learn quite a bit about working with host-nation assets and various agencies at an embassy. And traveling abroad for 3 months isn't something many people get to do in ROTC.

Once again, I don't know if there is a way to "apply" for this position as I was asked by a cadre member at my school and he had people at Knox pull my name into the position. The others I talked to at Knox were also traveling with cadre members from their schools.
 
I believe some XOs, and sometimes cadets, are handpicked. Advised DS to apply since deadline is approaching, but he said cadre picks cadets that are high on the OML and would reflect positively and benefit from experience.
CIET sounds great for MSIIs.

Sure, most people aren't as it isn't advertised anywhere. The Mission Commander's have the option to have a Cadet as an XO for their CULP mission. I don't think there is any certain requirement as far as what MS level can hold the position, though all of the one's I talked to at Knox were all LDAC grads and had completed MS4 year. Most were completion cadets that had a semester or two left in school and were asked by cadre members from their school to come along as an XO. There really isn't anything set on what the position entails as it all depends on how the MC utilizes the person, but they aren't tied to a specific CULP team and will usually spend the entire length of the CULP mission for that country in-country. I was an XO this past summer and spent roughly 3 months in-country. I tagged along with the different teams on some days (there were 4 over the time I was there) and did some of the stuff they did, but I also spent a lot of time working at the embassy working on contracts for our drivers, hotels, and various other things that the teams needed. Do to the security restrictions of the embassy for the country we were in, every time the teams were interested in traveling around the country on various excursions, I made sure the itinerary's and security stuff was taken care of through the regional security officer at the embassy. I also did a bunch of other boring stuff prior to the actual start of the mission tracking the status of each cadet on each team and making sure they had everything completed so that they could go. I was also a part-time tour guide for the new teams when they arrived in country.

I don't think that anybody that's done this has the same experience as any of the other XO's, but it was a neat opportunity and I got to learn quite a bit about working with host-nation assets and various agencies at an embassy. And traveling abroad for 3 months isn't something many people get to do in ROTC.

Once again, I don't know if there is a way to "apply" for this position as I was asked by a cadre member at my school and he had people at Knox pull my name into the position. The others I talked to at Knox were also traveling with cadre members from their schools.
 
Thanks guys, I'll inform DS to look into this more. Not sure what can be done with CIET being mandatory next summer. It would be great if he could attend more than one training.
 
Uhm... I guess my point was that there is a poster on this forum whose son's participation proves your point.

Sorry, I interpreted your post wrong. I thought you found something disagreeing with what I had posted, when instead you added to it. Thanks
 
I believe some XOs, and sometimes cadets, are handpicked. Advised DS to apply since deadline is approaching, but he said cadre picks cadets that are high on the OML and would reflect positively and benefit from experience.
CIET sounds great for MSIIs.

This is correct. I actually applied for CULP, since they needed an application to pull me into the XO position, after the deadline and once I applied I actually received a rejection notice since I applied late. But that stuff all gets taken care of when the cadre make a phone call to the CULP offices.

I don't know how much this happens with cadets strictly going on a CULP mission for the first time, since I would hope that cadre want as many cadets as possible to attend this training, but I'm sure there are instances where they ensure certain cadets get picked.

Don't let the above dissuade your cadet from applying. If you fill out an application, you have just as much of a chance of being selected as anyone else, the cadre can't stop your application. CULP really is one of the best things you can do in ROTC.
 
Questions???

I know nothing is set in stone for CIET for MSIIs, however, I was wondering if anyone can anticipate how this training will work. Will the format be like LDAC this summer? Meaning, will they have a staggered entrance training? Is it by brigades, battalions, or whatever? How do they determine when the cadet will attend? Can you change the date for training say if there will be a wedding in the family and his training was scheduled during that time? More than likely when will these dates be released? How long is the training anticipated to last? Two weeks? three weeks?

Thanks for the info. I know no one can state specifically. I was just wondering from past experiences if this training will be similar and what has happened in the past with you guys.
 
Questions???

I know nothing is set in stone for CIET for MSIIs, however, I was wondering if anyone can anticipate how this training will work. Will the format be like LDAC this summer? Meaning, will they have a staggered entrance training? Is it by brigades, battalions, or whatever? How do they determine when the cadet will attend? Can you change the date for training say if there will be a wedding in the family and his training was scheduled during that time? More than likely when will these dates be released? How long is the training anticipated to last? Two weeks? three weeks?

Thanks for the info. I know no one can state specifically. I was just wondering from past experiences if this training will be similar and what has happened in the past with you guys.

Since this whole CIET thing is new, it's hard to know exactly what type of training will take place.

I would imagine they will stagger the start times like they have with LDAC. From some of the info I've heard some of the MS3's that are attending CLT will stay on to help with CIET so they may schedule the dates around the CLT dates.

LDAC was never scheduled by Brigade or Battalion, it seemed to be rather random across the board. Those attending LDAC could submit a request for a certain time frame, the requests were not always granted however, they usually found out their dates mid to late spring semester, I assume that will be the same for CIET as well.

It is tough to plan around this training, what makes it more difficult is that some cadets can pick up a CTLT slot while there and not come straight home when they complete CLT and some may be asked to stay on to help with CIET.

If a cadet has a firm CTLT slot it can effect when they go to CLT, add those two together and it's a long summer. We just assumed we would not see much of our son that summer, and we were correct.

An apology in advance if I got any of the training names wrong, they keep changing them and it's hard to keep up sometimes.
 
Thanks. You did clear up a few matters for me. I wish we could know before late spring but I guess we'll have to be patient and switch dates if need be.. I'm not sure how other trainings will come in to play. Thank you!!,
 
Got an email today about CULP for this upcoming summer. Looks like they have made a few changes to the structure of the missions. Mission Commanders now will be O-5's, XO's will be O-4's (if used), and team leaders will be E-7/E-8/O-3. No changes as far as the cadet side of things go, but don't expect any future cadet XO's.
 
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son MS1 said that he is going to CIET this summer and that it was for anyone who hasnt gone -he said there will be MS1, MS2 and even some MS3s. He also hopes to do CULP.
 
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