CO Leak

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  1. kpdad2013

    kpdad2013 Member

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    Does anyone have any details about the 12 midshipmen taken to the hospital tonight because of CO exposure?
     
  2. jasperdog

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    Sent you a PM with the details we were told by our son less than an hour ago.
     
  3. bugsy

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    3rd Co top deck. DS says 7-8 plebes taken for monitoring. But most just watched by EMT for a while. Dont know how many were taken to hospital. DS was worried that he wouldnt have a place to sleep. But they let them all back into their rooms. That was the update as of midnight.
     
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    It's on the news. 39 mids taken to the hospital and checked for carbon monoxide poisoning. Some had elevated levels in their blood. No alarms went off in building. Mids reported headaches and that started the ball rolling.

    Need answers as to why no alarms went off. DS said alarms are in the hallways and not in the mids' rooms.
     
  6. Proud KP Dad

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    My DS called us last night @ 9:54pm EST to tell us he was going to Hospital; he was feeling woozy.

    Got a call a few hours later. The CO2 levels in his blood were twice the normal limit. He was still a little out of it but released. Not sure were they would stay. I didn't get any info from him on any alarms that did or did not go off.

    If there were no alarms, this is unsettling to say the least. What if this occurred a few hours later when the mids were sound asleep? I should change my handle to "Worried KP Dad". :confused:
     
  7. luv2fly

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    I don't usually get to excited about the things that go on at KP. But Carbon Monoxide poisoning well OUTRAGED comes to mind! Heads need to roll on this! Thank God this happened in the evening and not after the mids went to bed. In my dealings with CO poisoning when folks are sleeping usually means fatalities or severe brain damage.

    DS told us this morning his roommate had a headache late in the afternoon. Later on he noticed he had a headache and didn't think much of it. The next thing he knew folks were knocking on doors to evacuate the building.

    DS did get to ride in the helicopter to the hospital. He said it was fun and he was fine.


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  8. bugsy

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    DS CO level was at 8ppm with 10 as the cutoff for hospitalization. Docs here at work tell me that heavy smokers can have a level of 10. But at 25 they are definitely sending them to the hyperbaric chamber.

    DS says that he had a splitting headache and was likely well above 10 if they checked him an hour prior.

    Well, I hope the best for those that did need treatment.
     
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    Link to News 12 Long Island: http://www.news12.com/index.jsp
    Scroll down on "Top Stories" at center of page for report.
    Again, thank God it happened in the evening while the Midshipmen were awake.
     
  10. 2009KPer

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    There aren't any CO detectors in the barracks.

    The fire alarms, IIRC, are in every room and hallway. When that goes off, there's no sleeping through it (been there, done that).
     
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    DD also said there were no CO detectors in that building. She believes there are alarms in 2 CO.

    Has anyone else heard about another leak? DD texted me that 4 CO's barracks is now a problem.
     
  12. Proud KP Dad

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    DS sent a txt msg and I spoke with him later that they had to evacuate again because of a leak. CO tells mids not to worry... it will be fixed. :eek:

    Not convinced, DS goes down to Home Depot and drops $25 on a CO detector / alarm just to be safe. He was wondering why he had a migraine headache all weekend.
     
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    My brother is in fourth co. He said there was another gas leak while he was out on a run and the building was evacuated. They're back in the building now so everything's fine, but they don't have hot water. He didn't mention any people going to the hospital or being checked.
     
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    Another evacuation today with an elevated CO level and still no alarms going off. This time the evacuation was from Jones, which is attached to Barry where the problem first cropped up.

    Why are there no CO alarms? Isn't it the law that dorms have alarms? Can the Federal Academy be exempted?

    Someone needs to get us a definite answer. As of now, suggest all parents send/get their mids CO alarms to plug into their rooms.
     
  15. eagleone

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    is the place falling apart?

    While visiting the USMMA this past fall with my son, the general condition of the buildings on campus was not good. It appeared that maintenance on some of the buildings had been neglected. The waterfront was needing attention - the docks were crumbling.

    One has to wonder if this latest incident is a result of crumbling physical plant? Is there a plan to address these issues? Is the plan adequate to fix the situation or is it to little to late?
     
  16. Luigi59

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    Of course. There is no problem at the USMMA that money can't fix.

    They need a lot more of it, and the right person who knows how to spend it properly.

    I sincerely hope that this will wake up someone in Washington and get KP the funds it needs, not only to accomplish the mission, but to keep these kids safe first of all.
     
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    I could not agree more. When we dropped DS off at Indoc I was impressed with the outdoor portion of the campus. When we visited for Parent's Weekend in September I was shocked to see the condition of the interior of the buildings, specifically the gym facilities and the dorm rooms. DS is in Band Co which, I believe is the last to be renovated. The room was extremely worn and dingy, the sink fixture was hanging crooked, and the floors were permanently marred. I had to put on a fake smile for my son so that he wouldn't sense my horror. I felt awful that he had to live in such a run down, worn out room. Our state university has a reputation for crummy dorms but they look like hotel suites compared to what I saw.

    We live in a fairly "poor" state where the schools are constantly lacking sufficient funding. After saying that, I can say that I have NEVER seen a public school in our area that comes CLOSE to needing the kind of attention that the USMMA facilities require. Even the oldest schools in our district have gyms, classrooms, and other facilities that are far more up-to-date and functional than I saw at this United States Service Academy.

    I know that Congress has recently provided more funding for the school but honestly, I don't think it's going to put a dent in what needs to be done at USMMA.

    No carbon monoxide detectors in the dorms?! It's disgraceful and downright scary that our nation's future leaders are living in these conditions. We are all lucky that this negligence did not result in the deaths of USMMA Midshipmen last night.
     
  18. Lynpar

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    Would it be too much to hope for that a statement is made declaring monitors will be plugged in every room starting tomorrow in Barry Hall? Continuing on to second building that was evacuated ( an then given the all clear) tonight, and so on?

    This may be beside the point but, without a commandant, whose foot is being planted squarely up the business of who should have been in charge of this?

    Seriously, whose job is this?
     
  19. Phil11

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    Unsat, as the parent of a class of 2016 acceptee, this is disturbing. I wonder what else is being missed or neglected.
     
  20. 2012kpmam

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    Newsday, the local newspaper is reporting that federal officials Monday began installing "consumer grade" CO detectors in all the buildings and dorms as an "interim safety" measure.

    One can conclude from this report that there were no carbon monoxide detectors in any of the dorms prior to this emergency, if the article is correct.

    It is astonishing to think that a cheap and nationally mandated safety precaution was not previously implemented regardless of budget constraints.
     

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