Coast Guard Charges Helo Crash Survivor in Crewmates’ Deaths

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    Rest of the article HERE
     
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    I wonder what the real backstory is. Aviators have hit wires thousands of times. Why go after this guy, now? Something about what happened on that flight and in his career has gotten someone's attention.

    This is my off-the-cuff personal opinion: the USCG is cutting off its nose to spite its face. They train pilots to fly into marginal or worse weather in the interest of the greater good. If the pilots screw up, they get court-martialed on top of the misery and death of a mishap? I know I wouldn't want to fly under those conditions. But clearly not every USCG mishap equals a court-martial, so something is unique about this.

    Regardless, the accident was a shame and I'm sure this aviator would do anything to have that flight back. The time-honored struggle of helicopter-vs.-wires doesn't always result from negligence.

    It seems to me that there are deeper details to this...
     
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    Do you have a reason why he would only face 2 counts of negligence (for the deaths of the 2 enlisted crewmembers), but no charges in the death of the officer?
     
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    Do I know of a reason? No. I can only guess. My assumption would be because the other officer was a rated crewmember at the controls, and thus had the same responsibilities as the LT being charged. I have to wonder, since he isn't being charged with the deceased LT's death, if they haven't already decided that the deceased pilot was negligent as well.

    I didn't catch which guy was the PC. He usually eats the lion's share of the blame.
     
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    Correction.... I see that LT Krueger was the PC. There are mixed opinions at work about this. That flight sounds interesting. I think the real damning thing is whether he was below 500' with good reason or not. I'm guessing the USCG thinks he wasn't. I'm guessing he thinks they were. He was likely not on the controls at the time. But again, I don't know.
     
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    What does PC stand for?
     
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    I believe PC is short for Pilot in Command
     
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    Correct. PC is pilot in command. PI is pilot. CE is crew chief.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Ostebo will ultimately decide what happens with the case.
     
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    Norris will forward his findings to the District 17 commander who will then have 120 days to make a decision, although he is not bound by the recommendations that come from the hearing.
     
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    Rear. Adm. Ostebo is an interesting guy. I was intimidated by him, but also have a few good experiences as well. He was on a board I was the secretary for.

    Capt. Norris used to be an instructor at CGA in the law department.


    I'm not a huge fan of what's being done to this pilot, but the hope is, at the end of the day, the right decision is made. I'm hoping this isn't a witch hunt, but just watching from afar.
     
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    Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/artic...n-Coast-Guard-crash-2447672.php#ixzz1ingbn6ui
     
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    Coast Guard drops charges against crash survivor

     
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    Should have been dropped MONTHS ago, or never raised. :rolleyes:
     
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    The charges having been dropped seems a good thing to me as an outsider with very limited knowledge. The question I have is even though the charges were dropped is this guys career basically over? It seems that the accusation alone would be very hard to overcome.
     
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    From insiders the charges should have been dropped... and the finally were.
     
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