Coast Guard Failure to Follow Policy May Have Contributed to Rig Sinking

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  1. scoutpilot

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    All who disregarded the proper procedure should be held accountable.

    Loss of rank, pay, transfer, etc - what ever it takes to ensure the same mistakes are not made again.
     
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    I'm not so sure anything could have been done.
     
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    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Either it burns or it sinks. The vessels pictured are not Coast Guard. This is of course talking about "supervising" the initial response.

    Of course, you can also see who did the report....and it wasn't NOLA.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not quite sure what they think the alternative was. You put too much water onto it and overwhelm the ballast...it sinks. You let it burn out of control...it sinks. Seems like a partisan attempt to find fault in a situation that was doomed from the outset.
     
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    I don't want to start a firestorm (no pun intended) but, who's ships are those and if they are fighting fires, shouldn't they have training in fighting a fire? I'm sorry but both articles leave a lot to be explained. :confused:
     
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    (Disclaimer: only read first article)

    Those boats are oil rig supply/support boats. They are found pretty much all over the place where oil rigs are located and are usually owned/operated by the rig companies. Unfortunately I can't make out any markings to let me know exactly who owns the ones in the picture.

    As to training: all merchant mariners are required to attend a course known as Basic Safety Training to qualify for an STCW certificate. During this course is a class in firefighting. You actually learn about the science of fire and then go don the equipment and fight some fires. On ships you are required to do weekly safety drills which include firefighting training. Although the sailors on those ships aren't "certified firefighters" they likely have many hours of training on the same. They are well aware of the effects of pouring a bunch of water on a waterborne vessel. Also, most of that rig is exposed to the elements so it's likely that most of the water would have simply gone back into the ocean.

    Anyway, not sure what the Coast Guard could have added in that initial response, I would imagine whichever person would have taken command would likely have less firefighting experience than those on the boats.

    Anyway, just a few thoughts.
     
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    The Center for Public Integrity might not be the best source of information concerning criticism of a military branch, btw.

    They have been accused of bias against all branches of the US military before, as the source of their funding comes from George Soros. In 2005, the Wall Street Journal stated that the CPI was a front organization for 8 liberal left-wing groups, designed and formed to bypass campaign contribution laws.

    I would suggest that anyone who reads their "data" do so with a full understanding of the agenda of the group.
     
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    Based on other articles, I think it's noteworthy that the board of inquiry is asking questions about how it was handled. In my not-so-expert opinion, it seems that what they'll find is that a policy was written but not properly resourced. It seems like an example of an idea outpacing reality.
     

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