College Applicant

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  1. ActaNonVerba

    ActaNonVerba Member

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    Will being a college applicant lower my chances of receiving an appointment? Or do they save a number of spots for college applicants so that we have time to get our 1st semester grades in?

    Also, I qualify for a Presidential nomination; will most of those appointments (100) be awarded before January? Or will there still be a chance?
     
  2. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Being a college applicant doesn't have a material impact on your application other than there may be some "bonus points" (probably more figurative than literal) for the maturity college students bring to USNA as plebes.

    There is no quota or set-asides for college applicants of which I'm aware. USNA publishes the number of entering plebes who have some post-h.s. education, but be aware that the overwhelming majority of those are from NAPS and Foundation. I believe the number coming from civilian colleges each year is 60-80.

    Most appointments don't go out until after Jan. 31 b/c that's the date by which MOCs must turn in their nom slates. So USNA doesn't need to "save" spots. The only real difference b/t college and non-college applicants is that USNA doesn't review college applicant records until after first semester grades are in so you can't receive an appointment prior to that time. Most of the high school records have been reviewed by USNA but USNA is still awaiting the MOC slates so most appointments haven't gone out.

    Presidential noms are non-competitive. You get one if you're eligible. However, do not rely on a Pres nom as there are usually 800 people with such noms and only 100 of those can be slotted to the President. Apply for your MOC noms and the VP nom as well.
     
  3. Raseo1Son

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    Agree with 60-80 annually from civilian colleges?

    I only ask because I've found usna1985 to be a great resource here, and this statement is disheartening. I've seen a lot of threads mentioning that Admissions seems to look favorably on re-apps with A's in college (in the right courses) - and grads who mentioned how many of their classmates were accepted from college rather than HS. But unless I just missed it, I've never read here that so few were non-NAPS or Foundation. So, to other grads, moderators or just those with a long history here - do you concur? 60-80 annually seems like a pretty slim chance unless most applicants don't re-apply after the TWE - and that doesn't seem likely in as hard-charging a population as these young people are. Thanks, as always - and to ActaNonVerba, press on and good luck!
     
  4. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    A lot of candidates SAY they will reapply after receiving the TWE. In my ~14 yrs of being a BGO, I've had 2 actually complete their re-applications. One of those was accepted. I had another candidate with 2 full years of college apply for the first time and be accepted.

    I think a lot of folks who originally are determined to reapply later decide they're very happy with/at their Plan B. They like the school, make a lot of friends, etc. AND maybe decide they don't want to "start over" as a plebe. So they start the application but don't finish.

    Thus, I wouldn't assume the population of "true" college students is super high; however, I don't know this for a fact. I would say your odds are at least as good as those coming directly out of h.s.
     
  5. Raseo1Son

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    Wow - only 2 in 14 years?

    OK - that surprised me! Based on your experience, it looks like I've been greatly over-estimating the the number that would actually re-apply. My wife & I discussed the possibility that our son might just settle in where he's at because it seems like such a good fit for him (an he might) but he was busy writing essays for MOCs this weekend, so only time will tell. Thanks for the quick reply, and I'd still like more input if anyone else has experience or information concerning re-applicants.
     
  6. 4thgennavy

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    From Class of 2017 profile

    The class of 2017 includes 360 (30%) from college and post-high school preparatory programs which include:
    200 from Naval Academy Prep School in Newport, RI
    14 from the Navy Nuclear Power Program
    51 from the US Naval Academy Foundation Program
    95 additional students have completed at least one semester of study at a college or university.
     
  7. Raseo1Son

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    Thanks! I haven't been able to find the actual 2017 profile, but looking back thru the years to the Class of 2014, the number of applicants accepted from civilian schools is up 50%. You know, I looked at these profiles last year - but as the father of a (then) HS applicant these post-HS acceptance numbers just didn't stick. :rolleyes:
     
  8. AF6872

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    One of the graduates in my DD class did three years in College before appointment. He never gave up and ultimately achieved his goal. DS applied twice with nominations each year and received no appointment. He is now SIP and will be commissioned next spring. There are many paths. Never give up if that is your goal.
     
  9. COmom

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    At BGO training this summer, we were told that the current Superintendent looks very favorably upon college applicants. In 2012--class of 2016--letters of acceptance went out in early February to the college applicants. 5 out of ~30 2016 Colorado mids came from college.
     
  10. 1964BGO

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    In my memory, I have had more than two re-apps from college, but normally not more than one or two in any year since 1991. For the first couple of years the Foundation scholar-
    ships could be used for junior college - not sure about 4-year programs - but they shifted to strictly prep schools due to the large number of college kids deciding to stay where they were. When I was Area Coordinator it struck me that only one or two from the area with more than 150 - 200 prospects per year was producing so few re-apps. I do agree with 1985; starting over is a great deterrent for re-apping. BTW, in my plebe year, the four of us in the room all had been in prep school or college for at least one year - our oldest roomie had been in AROTC for THREE years before arriving at USNA!
     

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