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sempersurf17

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This is my third time applying to USNA. I was speaking with a friend about being slated within nomination sources. My congressional district nominated 11 people for USNA and has 3 spots available. He said that USNA will save at least one of those spots for a college applicant. This is coming from a friend who attended USNA. However, I do not know how valid it is since it did not come from USNA admissions. Does anyone have any insight on this? This is for no purpose other than informational purposes. Thank you!
 
Christcorp said:
There's only 3 possible ways the MOC presented the slate. And only they can tell you which way that was. The 3 ways are:

1. Competitive: this is the most common. The MOC presnts their slate to the academy, in no particular order (that matters) and tells the academy.... Pick one.

2. Ranked: the MOC presents a slate and the list is ranked #1-#10. The academy must start at #1 and offer that person the appointment, unless their application isn't complete or if they aren't 100% qualified. In which case they must go to #2 and so on. Words like primary don't mean a thing. The academy must start at the top and work down until they find a completed 100% qualified applicant.

3. Principal: a pseudo combination of the first 2 methods. The MOC presents a list where their #1 person is identified as their Principal nominee. The academy must offer this individual an appointment if their application is completed and they are 100% qualified. Just like method 2 above. The difference however is that the remaining 9 are not ranked #2-#10. They are competitive. If for some reason the #1 (Principal) can't receive the appointment, the academy is free to choose whomever they want from the remaining 9.

Hope this helps better understand the selection process. As I mentioned above, the ONLY person who can say which method the slate was presented, as for you finding out, is your MOC. Contact them. Or wait and sweat it out. Best of luck. Mike.
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I think that is just speculation and false. Remember MOCs nominate and USNA appoints, two very different processes that do not mix. The SA qualifies or disqualifies and is the only one who can appoint. It also depends on how your MOC submitted the nomination slates on how the appointments could be done. I posted this from Christcorp from another thread as its a great summary of the types of slates a MOC can use. It sounds as if your MOC had 3 openings, so he or she has submitted 3 slates. You MOC could have used 3 of the same slates or 3 different slates for each opening. If a MOC really wants a reapplicant to be admitted they could place them as a #1 on ranked or as a Principle. As long as that person is 3Q, they should receive an appointment. That is the best a MOC can do to ensure a re-applicant is admitted. It all depends on how they submitted those slates.
 
I feel as though USNA admissions will have little to do with a MOC nom. Unless its a primary nom.


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Good luck on your third try as I went through the same process many moons ago and was finally picked for an appointment. Your essay should really concentrate on the things a high school applicant cannot talk about---life experiences, maturity, clarity of goals, and past evidence of success at college. Unless your MOC office knows you well from past attempts and you are confident they will give you a Principal nomination, the best kept secret to increase your odds of an appointment is to establish residency in a sparsely populated state. No joke. Instead of competing with hundreds, it goes down to 20, maybe 30.
 
I've commented on this in other threads; but I think it is important to state again that Principal Nominations do give a candidate a leg-up in the appointment process but a Principal Nomination is not a guarantee of an appointment.
 
Okay thank you for the information and the good luck wish guys. I got a senator nomination in Florida, so I am being realistic and not getting too excited about that being he nomination that gets me in. I also have a presidential. I'm not sure how they rank those. However, I also got a congressional. I am one of 11 people in my district to get a nomination to USNA. They have three open spots for appointment. I guess what I was wondering was if the academy tries to save at least one of those spots for a qualified college applicant? I am the only college applicant in my district with a nom, and that is why I am asking. I know that it's still nowhere near guaranteed if that is the process, but it does help the odds. I think my application is competitive enough to qualify if they do save a spot for a college applicant, but at the end of the day it's all up to them.


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I think you need to get rid of the notion that USNA "saves" a spot for a reapplicant. Not true. Many on the board will say that a reapplicant is looked at as favorable because they are dedicated, but drive will not get one in alone. A strong package and a nom will. I am sure you have read the stickies for reapplicants above and followed them. You have several Noms which is great, more options. Also if your MOC has 3 openings and intends to fill them all this year, that means they sent in 3 slates. If he put them all in as ranked or with a Principle, then your chances could be impacted by where you were ranked on the slate. Pima or usna1985 or another great resource on here posted an example how a slate of 10 could get 8 appointments out of it. As you well know at this point, its a complicated process. At the end of the day you know how badly you want this, did you do everything in your power to make the best package? That is all you can do. Your persistence is admirable and a great trait. If you don't get in, please look at other commissioning sources because your drive and passion are needed in the fleet. Good luck! Will definitely be checking back in to see what your future holds.
 
Thank you! That was great information that took care of any misleading things I had heard. I am doing NROTC at my university so I will get there eventually. I just really hope the academy works out because it is a special opportunity. Four years of more than just academic development. It is moral, mental, and physical development during some of the most impressionable years of my life. I think that would help me be the best officer I can so I can do the most good for my country. Thank you for the help and advice. I will keep the thread updated.


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Congratulations! My DS got a call as well today from one of our senators with good news! We are in Florida. Where are you sempersurf17?
 
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