College Credits and ROTC

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  1. WorkforJesus

    WorkforJesus Member

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    Hello All,

    I am finishing up my Army ROTC scholarship and when I had to fill out how many credits I had it said I was disqualified because I am not a freshmen. I am a high school senior who has twenty five credits and another thirty by the end of senior year. Should I just say I have no credits on the application so that I am still eligible? Any pointers?
     
  2. beyond

    beyond KπΣ15'

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    Are you saying you'll have 25 total by the end of your senior year... or 55 by the end of your senior year? How did you arrive at that number?
     
  3. Pima

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    I am curious too.

    If you do indeed have 55 credits that will be accepted by your college, than you are not entering as a freshmen, but a junior and that means you are not eligible.

    Now if you are assuming that all of your APS count for college credit because you scored above a 3 on the exam, it is a different story. Basically, the majority of colleges will just use them to validate classes, but you will still be considered a freshmen.

    The same was true for my kids that did Jump start in HS through the local community college. His official transcript was not from the local CC, it was from his HS showing he took college level courses, but the credits were counted towards his HS degree, not his college.

    That's the key...which academic transcript will it appear on? If you need to go to the college and get that transcript than it is college and you are not eligible.
     
  4. ca2midwestmom

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    The AROTC scholarship application instructions should say how many college credit hours you can have to qualify for the scholarship. Agreed with Pima -- don't count your AP classes/tests. But if you took Dual Enrollment courses with a community college, and that college issues a transcript, you should list those classes. My DS took 2 Dual Enrollment classes (Chem & Physics) for 10 credit hours total. (At the time of the scholarship application he had taken 3 AP classes/tests with 4 more Senior year.) He only listed the 10 credit hours from the Dual Enrollment and received a 4 yr scholarship. There is a limit, and it should say on the application instructions somewhere; I don't remember what it was (probably less than 30). Or ask if there's an e-mail or phone # to call with questions.
     
  5. Iowa 73

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    Agreed. You only count actual college credit hours. Assuming AP credit is not what they are asking.
     
  6. Thompson

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    Perhaps OP mistook college credit with high school credit hours.
     
  7. Full Metal Bulldog

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    I started college as a second semester sophomore with 40 credit hours via AP and didn't have any issues receiving a 4 year scholarship, just a talk with my academic advisor emphasizing the minimum 12 credit hour per semester rule. I believe the limit is actually closer to 50 or 60 hours for Army....
     
  8. ca2midwestmom

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    But when you fill out the scholarship application, it asks for the number of college credit hours already earned. Doesn't it also ask for college transcripts? Dual Enrollment classes taken in high school count for high school credit AND college credit IF you pay the college fees and pass the class taught in the high school. (ie you get high school credit for Chem + lab and 5 college credit hours for Chem + lab on a separate college transcript).

    Full Metal Bulldog -- if you used only AP test scores to get college credit at your selected college, then that's different than taking community college classes while in high school. (Don't forget not all colleges award the same amount of credit hours for AP test scores. Some require a 3+, some require a 4 or 5, some give credit as a Pass/no grade.)

    The OP can still use AP test scores for credit once s/he gets to college, but the ROTC application does specify a max number of credit hours already earned to be eligible for the scholarship.
     
  9. WorkforJesus

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    Thanks for all the fast replies my credit hours are a combination of AP credits and a dual-enrollment program through a state university. I guess I will just list ten credits on the application
     
  10. beyond

    beyond KπΣ15'

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    You have no idea how your college will credit your AP Classes... so you can't really count them... because you haven't really earned them.
     
  11. AROTCPMS

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    Good compromise

    I think the decision to list 10 credits is a balanced decision and one that allows you to move forward with your application.

    LTC Rob Kirkland, US Army Retired, 2x Former Army ROTC PMS

    "The Insider's Guide to the Army ROTC Scholarship for High School Students and their Parents"
     
  12. ca2midwestmom

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    Just to be clear ... how many credit hours are listed on your State U transcript? That's the number you should list on your application. Don't include any Dual Enrollment classes you are currently taking because you haven't earned those credits yet. Include only credit hours earned last year or earlier.
     
  13. Pima

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    I agree at this point he is not anywhere near the credits he placed as 55.

    1. The AP credits are AP, not college credits at this particular time since it is on his HS transcript.
    2. The thirty being taken this year are not completed, thus they have 0 on a college transcript.
     

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