Common Sense Does Not Apply

Discussion in 'Merchant Marine Academy - USMMA' started by nadofr8dog, Jan 10, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. nadofr8dog

    nadofr8dog Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2009
    Messages:
    74
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have absolutely no problem with plebes having to go outside to make phone calls when they have phone privileges, but making them do this when it's 28 deg F with 18 knots of wind and a wind chill of whatever makes absolutely no sense!

    Can someone please apply some common sense to this! Thanks.
     
  2. Is2day4him

    Is2day4him Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2009
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    no one said they have to make a phone call home...
    :p
     
  3. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    2,362
    Likes Received:
    1,827
    Though this is small comfort, my Blackberry cell never seems to work inside at KP. When there on business throughout the year, I'm hunched up outside in the winter months, looking to stand in the lee of a building and get reception. Guess I'm a bit nuts, because I actually love cold salt air and a stiff breeze...:rolleyes:

    And... in a weird way, it's a taste of the future. Being outside supervising deck crew on ocean-going tugs, cargo ops in the snow, underway replenishment in the North Atlantic on USNS ships traveling with a Navy battle group, a considerable variety of Coast Guard and NOAA scenarios - freezing your tuckus off outside is part of the job description for any number of post-KP jobs. Throw in Army, Marine Corps and Air Force for good measure with an amazing array of freeze-tuckus-off "opportunities," and perhaps going outside to make a phone call can be seen in a Pollyanna light!
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2010
  4. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    2,153
    Likes Received:
    113
    Plebes don't like being outside to make phone calls in the cold......

    Solution: No phone calls for plebes when temperature below X degrees

    Sounds like a plan to me. At least they're allowed cell phones. We got to stand in a line for a pay phone.
     
  5. sprog

    sprog Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    979
    Likes Received:
    9

    I love this post. When I was at VMI, one of my classmates used to say "it's good training" when something undesirable came down (marching penalty tours, serving barracks confinement, dealing with new rules/policies). This is the perfect way to look at it....not that it makes anyone feel better, but a little bright spot can't hurt.

    Regarding freezing the tuckus off, having spent 3.5 years at Minot AFB in North Dakota (with 4 winters...I reported to the base in February), I can assure you that the active duty world (for those who choose it) is full of opportunities to be VERY VERY COLD.
     
  6. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2007
    Messages:
    8,756
    Likes Received:
    1,005


    I received a portable XM radio for Christmas a few years back. It obviously didn't work within the skin of the ship. After I got off watch, I would put on about 4 layers and head to the flight deck. I also brought out a rolled up mat from the gym that was never being used. I connected the XM radio to the flight deck nets and would lay down on the flight deck to listen to my favorite hockey team play thousands of miles away. It was around 20-30 degrees and windy with the occasional spray of the sea, but that little "taste of home" made it all worth it. When my team scored I had to be careful not to yell out, as that would probably have scared the watch into thinking someone had gone overboard in the dark night.

    If the phone call is worth it, they'll venture outside. Chase Hall at CGA didn't have the best reception either.
     
  7. deepsea

    deepsea Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2009
    Messages:
    191
    Likes Received:
    1
    Kings Point is a cell phone dead zone. Almost everyone has to go outside to make a call regardless of rank.
     
  8. Capt MJ

    Capt MJ Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    2,362
    Likes Received:
    1,827
    A friend of mine had an email from his daughter, a recent USAFA grad, in Greenland -- minus 18 deg this AM with windchill to 28 below... quite the cozy duty station.
     
  9. OldAirForce

    OldAirForce Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2007
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    Never was stationed in Minot but we lived there a few years back. Jan. 6, 1997 -29 (air temp) sustained 55 mph winds with gusts to 72 mph. Lovely
     
  10. jscam87

    jscam87 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    223
    Likes Received:
    0
    You have GOT to be kidding! We have bases in Minot and Greenland?

    Can somebody please apply some common sense to this! Thanks...
     
  11. USNA1982BGO

    USNA1982BGO Retired Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2009
    Messages:
    570
    Likes Received:
    0
    ^^^
    We even have an operation at McMurdo Station, Antarctica :eek:
    Been there, done that!
     
  12. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2007
    Messages:
    8,756
    Likes Received:
    1,005
    And lets not forget a place less populated than Antarctica......

    Attu, AK.
     
  13. noworries

    noworries Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2009
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    0
    Doubt if anyone needs anymore knee jerk reaction policies.

    Obviously everyone has endured hardships.

    We can all agree if you want to make a phone call bad enough you will do what you need to do.

    With the number of smart and resourceful students at this school I wouldn't be surprised if they figured out a way to build something to improve cell service.

    Sure there are better topics to discuss than a kid standing in the cold talking on a phone.
     
  14. nadofr8dog

    nadofr8dog Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2009
    Messages:
    74
    Likes Received:
    0
    Fortunately, being very grizzled, tough skinned and from the days of wooden ships and iron men, well before the invention of cell phones, I've "appreciated" all the comments. Except for Minot, Greenland and the Antarctic, though I am currently in Anchorage in my second career, I can probably at least equal all those "I been there's" . . . .

    My original comments germane, this sounds like one of those little red a$$ things that is done just because. Or, I had to do it when I was a plebe, so . . . . makes sense. Let me see, if it is raining, they get to have their cell phones but they can't make any calls because they have to go outside in the rain and that would ruin the phones. Hmmmmm.

    Enough said. The supermoderator is welcome to kill this thread.
     
  15. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    2,153
    Likes Received:
    113
    At the OP's request and since we've probably beaten it to death I'll lock this one down.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page