Competitive Method

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  1. Katienavy?

    Katienavy? Candidate

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    --> which one is that again?
     
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    The US Rep or Senator submits a list of up to 10 names for each opening they have to fill.
    The academy ranks the list by order of merit and the one with the most number of points who is also qualified medically and physically will win the appointment.
     
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    Ok so s/he just submits a slate and the Academy picks the top ones?

    Thanks!! :smile:
     
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    Do the rest of the 9 nominees have a chance of getting in?
     
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    Oh gosh yes. There are 4 plebes from our Congressional District. Although I know that 3 did have other noms (service connected) as well as the Congressional nomination.

    What happens is they get to be put into a pool of other candidates with Congressional noms. The academy can pick out of this pool until the class is filled.
    While there are some Congressional districts that are very competitive, there are also some who don't get any applicants in a given year.
     
  7. Katienavy?

    Katienavy? Candidate

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    Oh that makes me even more calm! :shake:

    I don't know if this is appropriate, but do you (or anyone) have an idea how many people 'get picked out of the pool'?

    Thank you!! :biggrin:

    ps- does that mean one doesn't actually have a nomination, or does that mean one gets given a [random] nomination by the Academy?
     
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    Good questions, Katie.
    Technically, ONE person on the slate of ten gets the nomination, with the appointment. The remaining people have what USMA calls an "Alternate" nomination.
    How many are appointed with alternates depends on how many spaces they have left to fill the class. Vague, I know.
     
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    No thank you :shake:, it's impossible to estimate the number I'm sure!

    This 'Alternate' nom is also used by USNA, I'm assuming?
     
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    US Code says the Sec of Army (Navy & AF) may select 150 candidates by order of merit from qualified alternates from the US Reps and Senators.
    A qualified alternate being a candidate who is qualified for an appointment and an alternate on the nomination list.

    After all appointments are made - they may also continue to fill the class with qualified alternates. So the number is about 150. I have heard it is more like 200 but that obviously varies from year to year.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00004342----000-.html

     
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    THANK YOU!!!! :biggrin::thumb:
     
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    Are there other ways of getting a nomination beside the traditional MOC, Senator, VP or President?
    What are they?
     
  13. NChopeful

    NChopeful Candidate Appointee

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    I think your JROTC leader? and of course, if you're enlisted...

    back to the original question.... If you have a LOA and you're on the alternate nominee list... are you good?
     
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    There are three types of nominations - Congressional and Service-connected and Superintendent.

    We discussed Congressional - these are the nominations from your US Representatives, Senator and VPOTUS.

    Service connected nominations are those given to children of disabled or deceased Veterans, Children of MOH winners, Children of service members.
    Also, Cadets can be eligible for Service connected nominations if they are enlisted, in ROTC or in JROTC.

    The Superintendent of the academy may also nominate up to 50 persons each year.

    Yes, if you have an LOA and have an alternate nomination you are good. It may take a while before you get your actual appointment.
     
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    Danke shone!
     
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    Does one have to be brilliant physically for that, or what are the 'conditions'?

    NChopeful - you got notified of you alternate nom standing?

    ps - * schön (or schoen) :thumb:
     
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    You can't apply for noms from the Supe. They are typically reserved for strong candidates who, for some reason, didn't or couldn't get a nom from other sources. There are probably as many reasons as there are noms. I had it happen to one of my candidates one year who had some very special circumstances including 3 yrs of college, moving from one state to another, etc. Until that happened, I didn't even know these noms existed.

    The bottom line is that you should NEVER count on getting a SecNav nom because you have zero control over it. Do your very best to make your entire application packet as strong as possible, do your very best to earn every nom for which your eligible, and then see what happens.
     
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    That's what I was wondering - what else could I be eligible for?

    - I missed my Senatorial deadlines (late decision to apply)
    - I have my MOC
    - non-military family & no military activities (none possible in Europe! :rolleyes:)
    - 3 high schools in 4 years on 2 continents
    - senior in hs
    - mum was a journalist for Reuters, now writes stuff for various UN Orgs
    - ... pretty much it

    I guess I have only the MOC then?
     
  19. NChopeful

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    No, I haven't even done my congressional interview yet:rolleyes:
    I was just curious. From what I gather, if you have a LOA, Congressmen(and women) have the tendency of putting you on the alternate list, so they can maximize their number of candidates... they try to get other people as their primaries, since they know you are "assured" your admission.
     
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    If a MOC lists you as an alternate nominee and you have a LOA, you're good to go. At least that's my story. :smile:
     

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