Competitive Slate MOC Nomination Still Give Principle Nomination?

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  1. c.long

    c.long Member

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    My Congressman does the competitive slate process for giving out nominations. But last year, a friend of mine with the same Congressman was told what rank he was out of the people recieving nominations. Does that mean that you can be given a principle nomination with the competitve slate method?

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  2. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    Short answer is no.

    This is extracted from the USMA stickies but it works the same for USNA.

     
  3. Bill_The_Goat

    Bill_The_Goat New Member

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    MOC Options: Nominees may be submitted in three categories:
    1) without ranking,
    2) with a principal candidate and nine ranked alternates, or
    3) with a principal candidate and nine unranked alternates.

    When the Member specifies a principal candidate, that individual will be appointed to a DOD academy as long as he or she meets all other admission criteria. If the principal candidate is disqualified, the service academies will appoint the first fully qualified, ranked alternate, if specified by the Member. In circumstances where Members do not specify a principal candidate or ranked alternates, one individual from among the Member’s nominees who is found to be fully qualified will be appointed by the academies to serve as a cadet.
     
  4. c.long

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    Thank you for the info. I'm just confused about how my friend was given a rank if they do the competitive process. Maybe I misunderstood something. Either way, I should be notified of whether I recieved a nomination or not from my Congressman before the month ends. I'll try and give their office a call later today to see if I can clarify what may have happened.

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  5. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    That is what Principal with Competing Alternates is. A principal is designated and all others are not ranked (i.e. left to the SA to pick ANY of the remaining 9 individuals per slate). If a MOC has more than one slate, I believe they can choose the method PER slate. So one slate could be totally different from another. However, MOST MOCs only have one slate per given year.
     
  6. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Agree with Bill the Goat.

    An MOC can give out a principal with ranked alternates. There is a sticky in the Noms Forum that explains the various approaches.

    Whether you want to describe a slate as principal with ranked alternates or simply a ranked slate is somewhat irrelevant as, in either case, the SA must start with the first person and go down the list -- giving the appointment to the first fully qualified person on that list.

    However, once that appointment is given, the others remaining on the list go into the national pool (assuming they are not on another nominating slate) and there they compete as competitive alternates.

    For example: Candidate #1 on the MOC's ranked slate is medically DQ. Candidate #2 is fully qualified, as are Candidates #3-#10. The SA must appoint #2, even if they consider #5 to be the best candidate. However, once #3-#10 go into the national pool, #5 probably has a better shot at getting an "at large" appointment b/c the SA considers him/her to be the best remaining candidate on this MOC's slate.
     

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