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  1. jennifer8490

    jennifer8490 Member

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    I was wondering if anyone out there can clarify what is going on with my file. I have completed everything in the portal except the DODMERB which my Admissions Team will not warrant. I have a congressional nomination but was not the principal. I was told I needed to be more competitive but I don't see how much more competitive I can get. I am confused because I am done with the process for USNA and USAFA including the DODMERB. Can someone tell me what I need to do or not do.
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  2. buff81

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    Could you explain this situation a little more?
     
  3. jennifer8490

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    I have completed everything in the portal including getting a congressional nomination. I emailed the Admissions Team and asked them when they were going to schedule me for DODMERB but his response was since I wasn't the principal nominee he wasn't going to schedule me for one. He told me I needed to be more competitive.
     
  4. MemberLG

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    Did you get your Medical examination through DODMERB already for USNA/USAFA?

    If so DODMERB results are shared among SA,s so you don't need another DoDMERB medical examination for West Point.

    West Point might have to request the result from DoDMERB, but you don't need another medical examination if you already did it for other SA.

    As for competitivness, for candidate with little or no chance of acceptance, SAs won't authorize DoDMERB examination.

    I believe the minimum requirement is somewhat competitive SAT/ACT scores and highschool transcript before West Point will authorize medical examination.
     
  5. jennifer8490

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    I completed my medical for the Naval and Air Force Academy.

    I have a 3.87 GPA
    I rank 17 out of 480
    I have an SAT score of 1740 math-630 CR-530 Wr-580
    I have taken multiple AP classes.
    I have varsity letters and I am currently a captain
    I have many EC activities including leadership positions.

    Please tell me what more I need to do.

    I am taking the SAT over again this month to improve my CR score.
     
  6. Packer

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    Your MALO or RC should be able to answer your question as to why. I would guess it is because of that 530 CR score. Study hard and try to improve it on this last test.
     
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    You might think about giving the ACT a try. My cadet preferred it to the SAT.
     
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    I am confused now

    Can you clarify what you mean by "I have completed everything in the portal except the DODMERB which my Admissions Team will not warrant."
     
  9. buff81

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    Packer is spot on. Below a 560 on Math or CR is considered a 'risk' or IOW - academically disqualifying.

    Great advise!
    Definitely take the ACT. You still have time to take the ACT (and SAT too) one more time before the application deadline (FEB 28). Many do better on one than the other. I suggest you work very hard with test prep books, courses, etc to bring those scores up.
    Here is a free prep course sponsored by the Army ( no strings attached): march2success.com

    Contact your RC again and and tell him that you already have completed the DoDMERB exam for USNA and USAFA and that you are taking the SAT again and the ACT. Let him know that you are determined to bring your scores up to be more competitive.
    Good Luck!
     
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    Question for anyone -- does the USMA superscore the SAT sections?

    If so, OP, take the SAT again but put all of your preparation and focus into the CR portion of the test when you re-take it. I don't think it even matter if you leave the math and writing (I don't think they count Writing anyway) portions empty... but it would look kinda weird.
     
  11. Vista123

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    Im unclear on how that is disqualifying.

    If you look at the USMA class profile for 2014 31% entered with a SAT Verbal; score of 500-599 and 5% had 400-499.

    Also a 530 CR is the equivalent of a 22 on the ACT and 16% of the class got a 25Reading score or lower.

    Can someone clarify?

    Thank you in advance.
     
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    Candidates with SAT scores below 560 on Math or CR or ACT scores on any subsection under 24 are academically disqualified.
    Some of these candidates will become qualified with a 'risk' review by the dept that they are a risk for. IOW - a math risk will be reviewed by the math dept for approval.
    Similar to the West Point docs determining whether to take the 'risk' of accepting a medically DQ'd candidate.

    USMAPS may be an option for some of these candidates.
    To be offered USMAPS, you must be academically DQ'd but medically qualified, physically qualified and have a nom.
    Conversely - if you are academically qualified - you will not be offered a slot at USMAPS.
     
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    So if I get my CR scores up to a 570-600 on my SAT, what are my chances then. Will West Point see me as a risk with a 630-math, 570-600-CR still or deem me academically qualified and order a medical. If West Point sees me academically qualified what happens next. I have been medically qualified with the USNA and USAFA. Where would I stand then?

    I am really greatful for all the advice everyone has given me.
     
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    jennifer8490,

    you are not reading what some of us have posted.

    If you already had a medical examination through DoDMERB for another service academy, you don't need another medical examination. West Point should be able to get your medical result from DoDMERB.

    So first thing you should do is talk to who ever you are talking to at West Point to let them know you already took a DoDMERB medical exam.

    As for competitiveness, as others have recommended SAT/ACT.
     
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    I understand what you are saying. I put that medical portion in there by mistake. I was trying to ask if I score at a 570-600 on the CR portion of the SAT when I retake it this Jan. How will that affect me being more competitive. Will that boost my chance of getting an appointment or do I need to do more.
     
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    Scoring better on your CR will boost your chance of getting an appointment. Depends on your course work in highschool, the English department at West Point might or might now grant you academic waiver with your current CR score.. So if you score better on CR SAT, your chance of getting academically qualified is higher, hence increasing your chance of getting an appointment.

    You don't have time to do more other than taking the SAT. Cannot change your 7th semester grades. Cannot suddenly become a club president or sports team captain.
     
  17. VonFritz

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    Jenn,
    You can go on collegeboard.com and see what the average acceptable SAT scores for the USMA are. That being said, the numbers are somewhat subjective. The long and short is simply, if in doubt, retake your SAT's and ACT's as often as possible. My son took the SAT's 4 times - each time bettering one aspect of his overall score. By doing so he submitted SAT scores in the mid to upper 600's in each category. Although his file is strong you then have to take into account the applicants vying for spots! In some states and districts, the competition is so strong, many applicants wind up on the NWL and do not receive a appointment. 5 years ago many of these candidates would have received appointment - no problem.
    Another thing to consider is that West Point looks at the entire candidate when determining who they select. They call it the WCS (Whole Candidate Score). While academics are the biggest component of the selection process, they also look at your athletic abilities (varsity letters, captaincy, awards...), Leadership qualities (organizations you belong to and your leadership role in that organization) and your DoDMERB status (to make sure you are physically able to handle the rigors of USMA life - and beyond).
    Do you best in your academics, athletics and EC's and things will work out the way they are supposed to! Good luck!
     
  18. A'sMom

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    Seems like I remember seeing that USMA is going to count the writing score ths year, correct me if I'm wrong.
     

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