Congress having two engines for the F-35?

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  1. packermatt7

    packermatt7 USAFA Cadet

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    I find this to be odd...

    Full article:
    http://www.upi.com/Security_Industr...astes_billions_of_dollars/UPI-58191235486777/

    Why keep funding competition between two engines? Wouldn't it be smarter to put those funds into other projects, say, the F-22? Or maybe put them back into the JSF program. I don't understand.
    And why mess with maintenance of two different engines, when one has already proved to be superior? Wouldn't this endanger pilots?
     
  2. USCGA_hopeful

    USCGA_hopeful Candidate Appointee

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    Just goes to show you how smart our politicians are.
     
  3. flyersboy114

    flyersboy114 USAFA Cadet

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    Wow! My stomach just did flips! This is very disturbing, goes to show corruption is clearly evident in congress
     
  4. RaptorDad2013

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    Nah! You're just developing a bigger "world view" as you start to look at things in a broader light. Now that you're either an apointee or a candidate, you start to really read things that, maybe a year ago, were just another "current events" assignment in AP US History! :shake: They have greater meaning to you now.

    The example you cite is why some of us parents and others who have already "been there" don't automatically believe a politician, even if it is the President, who says "Pork? There is NO pork in this Stimulus Bill!"

    So, it's not "corruption" but someone looking out for their local jet engine manufacturer in their home district. All you can hope is that there are others in Congress who refuse to accept a bill with that language in it. The fact that the Administration (through the DOD) is saying "we don't want it" is a way of giving others in Congress a heads up as to what is going on. Just chalk this up to a great "learning experience" example!
     
  5. oldgrad

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    The thing that bothers me most about the entire F-35 program is that the aircraft only has one engine. Perhaps they can redesign it and put one of each type in it.
     
  6. flyersboy114

    flyersboy114 USAFA Cadet

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    That wouldnt work to well haha.
     
  7. Bullet

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    Part of that pesky "we got to keep it light so we can make a STOVL version" problem. Adding another engine would have made the F-35 MUCH heavier. Not a big issue to the AF, a slight issue for the Navy, but a show-stopper for the Marines.
     
  8. Bullet

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    BTW, the first STOVL bird in the "operational" configuration flew this week. The first few AF "operational" birds start flying in a few weeks as well. The flight testing will really kick off fast and furious by this summer....
     
  9. unitedstatesAFA2013

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    Does congress really think that the current engine is not sufficient enough? Or are they really just trying to pass some pork? That's the lamest thing I've heard. It won't even create that many jobs.
     
  10. Pima

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    You do know what they call a 16 right? LAWN DART...many Strike people will jokingly state at least I am not flying a lawn dart...wives will also talk about how we feel better with our DH's having 2 engines in case something happens to 1.
     
  11. packermatt7

    packermatt7 USAFA Cadet

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    Two engines: very good
    One engine: fine
    One engine, but changes every year for the new bird: sucks
     
  12. unitedstatesAFA2013

    unitedstatesAFA2013 Candidate Appointee

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    Also, the 15s are much better looking birds. ;)
     
  13. packermatt7

    packermatt7 USAFA Cadet

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    But very visible in a dogfight.
     
  14. unitedstatesAFA2013

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    But very good looking :)
     
  15. Bullet

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    If it gets to the point where you're in a visible dog-fight against an F-15, the Eagle driver screwed up a LOOOONG time ago. The same can be said for the F-35 pilot...
     
  16. unitedstatesAFA2013

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    Isn't this were some saying can be applied: "If you see me, I'm already dead?" or did I just make that up lol
     
  17. packermatt7

    packermatt7 USAFA Cadet

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    What if IFF screwed up, or AWACS couldn't confirm "bandit"? Didn't that happen a lot in the Gulf War?
     
  18. Pima

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    I might be wrong, but I always thought that the radar shows all of the players on your team when you take off in a package, thus you should be able to quickly realize you have an univited guest to the party!

    I say I might be wrong, because Bullet will tell you that after looking into the cockpit of the 111, I quickly realized there were alot of things that he had to do to get home to me safely...IGNORANCE IS BLISS:shake: I have never ever seen the inside of the Strike, and as a spouse on spouses day, I never did the SIM either and 21 yrs later I am A-OKAY with not ever knowing!

    BTW the ugliest bird out there is the A-10...JK! The stealth is the ugliest, but when you attack the A-10 people get riled and I just had to do it:wink:
     
  19. flieger83

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    So VERY True!!!
     
  20. Bullet

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    packermatt, much more was involved than just the toys on the plane. It's called TACTICS and PROCEDURES, and using those toys properly. Screw them up, and you WILL find yourself in a visual dog-fight, flaring off incoming missiles for all it's worth. And it won't matter how good your toys are.

    And that's all I've got to say on that.... (I'm not a smart man, but I know what getting my butt blown out of the sky is...)
     

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