Contracting

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  1. cravius

    cravius Member

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    When do 3your year AD cadets contra t? Ive been told both. The letter from CC said i have to by december of freshman year or i lose the scholarship. Does this mean if i contract freshman year i recieve the stipend as well?
     
  2. Jcleppe

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    Interesting, I would read the letter again. Usually a 3 year AD scholardship cadet will contract the beginning of the their sophomore year.

    There is a chance that you may be upgraded to a 3 1/2 year scholarship the second semester of your freshman year but that is something your Battalion and BDE will offer.

    To be eligible for the upgrade you would need to pass your APFT and be in good standing your first semester along with being recommended by your cadre.

    I'm not sure what they mean in the letter when they say you have until Dec. A 3 year AD does not take effect until your sophomore year.

    I would call the battalion at the school your are going to attend and ask for clarification.

    You would only start getting the stipend once you contract and to contract your freshman year you have to either have a 4 year scholarship or be upgraded to a 3 1/2 at the second semester.
     
  3. dunninla

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    I think it means you have until Dec. of your MSI year to VALIDATE your scholarship, or you risk losing it. Validation means passing the APFT, remaining medically eligible to serve, and not getting into trouble with the law.
     
  4. jagabiti

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    DS is on a 4year AROTC scholarship and he was first told he had to pass his PFT and contract at the beginning of his second year... That's what he was told well he took his scholarship... Well we rec'd a call on a Friday in December from DS that said "I have until Monday to pass my PFT and contract or lose my scholarship". Now mind you DS goes to PT 4 days a week, great shape but for some reason was always 2 sit ups off the minimum. PFT was at 7am that Monday and don't you know he passed and signed his commission paperwork on the 13th of December. Don't go by what some people are telling you, go ask your cadre! He said that things are changing now to get ROTC more competitive. I suspect that other things will change as well. GL
     
  5. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    I think we are confusing a few things here.

    1. If you have a 3AD you contract at the beginning of your sophomore year. Prior to that the PMS will validate that you still meet all requirements.

    2. What you are reading about December of your freshman year pertains to 4 year winners. If you want to live life on the edge show up to campus freshman year not meeting the requirements. You have until the end of the semester to meet the requirements and still contract and get your school paid for. You will not receive stipend during that time, so that's the price you'll be paying for not being ready (along with some sleepless nights).

    3. jagabiti...not sure what school your son goes to, but if he had a 4 year scholarship, and they waited till the end of the first semester to contract him they screwed him out of a semesters worth of stipend. At all the schools I'm familiar with the goal is to contract on the first day of school for 4 year winners. That way stipend starts on time. Stipend is not retroactive. That's not going to change...that's the way it's supposed to be done.

    The bottom line is to ask your cadre/ROO/HRA about when/where/how you will contract. Hopefully they are like that helpfull ROO from Clarkson that walks his scholarship winners and prospects through every step of the process.
     
  6. jagabiti

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    Your are correct...he did not get his stipen until he rec'd a partial for December. In Jan. he did get his first semester book money and then a partial stipen for Jan. since school started on the 19th. Now he has gotten his stipen on the first and 15th of every month since. His tuition was paid for in Sept. It totally was his mistake listening to someone else. He didn't realize that he had until the end of the first semester to contract. He said he spent the first few PFTs helping other cadets with their running at the expense of his passing his.....now he knows better to take care of his stuff first then help the other ROTC cadets. He defiantly waited until the last possible day. The physical test he did to get the scolarship was nothing like doing it the army way. Best adise would be prepared.
     
  7. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Oh...so he failed all his PT tests prior to the one in December...that's a little different than the Battalion not letting him contract till December.

    That's about a $1200 lesson in preparedness.
     
  8. jagabiti

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    Yep...you got that right... Actually $900 but who's counting...only our DS. Tough lesson for a 17 year old.
     

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