Current Enlisted, current Candidate

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  1. lukepeoples

    lukepeoples Member

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    Background:
    Been in 22 months, Graduated a year early from an IB high school with a moderate GPA in the bottom quarter of my class. I am a Hospital Corpsman, Surgical Technologist/ 8404 FMF Medic. Graduated top of my class from A school and two C schools, Near maxed PFA and CFA, 600m/640e SAT, multiple military reccomendations, SECNAV Nomination and prior community college experience with moderate GPA. Currently DoDMERB qualified.

    Major CONS: Low high school class rank, moderate GPA, possession of marijuana arrest (middle school), charges immediately dropped.

    In your experience, have you seen someone prior enlisted get SECNAV nomination and still be shot down? How does the character review work? Are my cons really that bad given the massive success through military schooling? I am expecting NAPS if anything due to my time out of school. Any other questions will be gladly answered, my package is complete and am waiting for the admissions board to send me a response, just trying to get some more insight.

    Thank you,
    HN Peoples, CST.
     
  2. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    HM Peoples,

    For NAPS, you do not need a nomination. Additionally, if you were to receive a direct offer, a SECNAV nomination wouldn't really be the issue -- 85 SECNAV AD nominations exist for about 60 prior enlisted appointments (see class profile). Basically, if you are found 3Q (or successfully complete NAPS), they probably will charge you to the SECNAV nomination, should an offer of appointment be extended to you.

    Your main concern will likely be the issues you brought up. Evals, CO's recommendation, and your performance will also be factors.

    Good luck and now it is just a waiting game.
     
  3. lukepeoples

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    So what your saying is: the fact I have a SECNAV nomination is a strong help? From what I have been told by others is that the arrest will be overlooked because it was seven years ago, and the subpar high school performance will be negated by the excellence in my military career so far. What is your opinion on this?

    Also could you expand on the triple Q?
     
  4. Whistle Pig

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    Agree w/ you analysis. I think you stand a fair shot for direct apptmt. As you can see from the stats, NAPS is decreasingly used for moving sailors and Marines into commissioned status, using other routes for such, and using NAPS for the diversity gig for USNA.

    Furthermore, your record seems suffiently remediated and current that you might choose to avoid NAPS, given the opportunity.

    No expert in any case, let alone your circumstance beyond watching profiles of some others who've come out of the fleet. You've got some hurdles, but they wouldn't seem insurmountable. Keep us posted, please.
     
  5. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    The nomination really doesn't mean anything. I'm saying 85 SECNAV nominations for AD exist and normally only about 60 are probably used for actual AD -- therefore, it isn't really "competitive."

    I'd agree that your issues, having come at an early age, are less likely to have significant weight, provided you learned something and your record since then has been phenomenal. As I previously mentioned, your evals, COs recommendation, and general performance will hold weight.

    3Q = Scholastic (grades, ranking, SAT/ACT, ECAs, activities, performance, evals, etc.), Medical (DODMERB or USN doctor for AD candidates?), and Physical (CFA).

    Based on last year's class profile, which ONLY lists those who received an appointment or acceptance to NAPS (i.e. it doesn't show ALL AD Sailors who applied), about 50% were sent to NAPS and the other 50% received direct appointments.
     
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    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    There is a senior enlisted at USNA who is specifically tasked with working with enlisted personnel from the USN and USMC who desire to attend USNA. I assume you're already working with him; he would be the best source of info on your situation. And GOOD LUCK!
     
  7. lukepeoples

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    In response to an above comment, yes, AD needs to do DoDMERB, but since I work in a Naval Hospital and understand the procedures I was able to conduct the tests fairly quickly with doctors I usually work with, so it was quick and painless. AD has the choice to go through concorde or their primary care provider, the downside to the latter is that we must fax it ourselves and make sure the required documents are included. If an AD member doesn't know what they're dealing with, they usually apparently go to concorde for assistance.

    I have been working closely with my BGO, ETCS Maxwell and I just like to get as much information as possible from as many sources as possible. I know that BGOs, even the one for AD can't know everything about each candidate, especially since there is only one for Enlisted candidates.

    I am fairly confident that I will at least get into NAPS, which will be optimal since I have been out of the civilian-style multiple course rigour for about three years, going on four.

    Will my BGO contact me when my record goes before the Admissions Board? The last contact I had with him was about the Character Review Board that they had to do about the possession arrest. Which was around two weeks ago.
     
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    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Your BGO doesn't know when your record goes before the board. Our system tells us the Board status once the Board has reviewed your record and made a determination (i.e., qualified, etc.) but we are prohibited by USNA from providing that info to candidates.
     
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    So I'm assuming that the Candidate Bulletins link on the Candidate File is where I will find the triple Q information? Or will the best place to find out be through my chain of command/ letter they mail out? Better yet, the question to ask is: Are all three of these sources of figuring out my status?

    Edit: I believe it is evident that my patience is paper thin regarding their decision! Haha!
     
  10. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    You really don't have a BGO because that role is fulfilled by the Fleet Admissions Counselor (ETCS Maxwell).
     
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    Are admissions counsellors on the admissions boards? I'm confused what sort of change in role this will play.
     
  12. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    No, they are not.
     

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