Dating at West Point

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a friend of mine managed to date a physical thearpist working at West Point

a female cadet in my company dated a Military Police soldier stationed at West Point
 
several thoughts based on DS's experience this year as a plebe:

- You really do not have the time, or the means to date off campus as a plebe.

- Even when exposed to cute girls from other campus's every couple of weekends, it does not change the time aspect.

- Since you cannot really talk to other plebes outside your room or the academic area it's hard to meet other plebes. (yes, there are exceptions, but much of the time it's just not an option per DS even when you see friends you know). So most of your friends end up being in your company unless you had them prior or have them in a class. Or are on an athletic team with them.

- Girls in your squad & platoon end up being more like siblings if you get along, and completely out of consideration for dating if you don't get along.

- Same for opposite sex in clubs, athletics, etc. You are just too close to them to risk dating. As DS says, it would be too awkward.

- Any girl you would want to date at WP has the equivilant of roughly 100 older brothers, most bigger than you are. :smile: Even if you are completely honorable, you have to pass muster. (It can & does happen, though)

- From observation, it appears your most likely odds are to meet someone in your company but not your platoon/squad. You are likely to be near enough to them to hang out, see them at company bbq's, and have opportunity to chat. Either someone you sat with on the airport bus, or shared a class with, etc. IE: it was unplanned, but just worked out.

That's DS's experience. Not really dating, but quite a bit of hanging out and having fun. Which is really what you would want anyway, given all the rules about PDA, etc.

Now if you are determined to meet girls off campus you should take a look at the various club teams and clubs which travel. The opportunity to meet them is there, but you'll likely be disappointed with what you find. Seems as USMA cadet your priorities & focus change. So it's hard to relate to them. So the girl cadets start to look much better.

Re: football games- there is a common game where UC's outfit any plebe who thinks they have "game" with Firstie insignia, ribbons, to an extreme. They then go trolling to see if they can convince a cute girl to come sit with the company. DS was sitting with us one game, and he could spot them right away, and clued us in. It really was funny to watch. There is a difference in how the plebes walk & move compared to the firsties!
 
hawk said:
Re: football games- there is a common game where UC's outfit any plebe who thinks they have "game" with Firstie insignia, ribbons, to an extreme. They then go trolling to see if they can convince a cute girl to come sit with the company. DS was sitting with us one game, and he could spot them right away, and clued us in. It really was funny to watch. There is a difference in how the plebes walk & move compared to the firsties!
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Haha I attended one of the homes games for my official recruiting visit. My host also pointed them out, it was really funny to see them, and yeah I know what you mean when you say they walk different, they carry themselves different from the plebes.
 
Ok, this is kind of a random question, but how do the guys react to cadet girls dating with guys from USNA and USAFA. I heard that they don't take well to it lol.
 
lokichaos said:
Ok, this is kind of a random question, but how do the guys react to cadet girls dating with guys from USNA and USAFA. I heard that they don't take well to it lol.
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How would they be able to do that? The couple would like never be able to be together!!
 
My room mate married a West Point grad. They met while both doing summer internships between 2/C and 1/C Year (Junior and Senior). They dated for a few years and were married about 2.5 years after they graduated. Luckily they were both stationed in Europe after graduation and got spend almost all their weekends together. They spent alot of time on the phone and emailing. Over 10 years later they are still happily married. Yes they were apart alot during their active duty days, but they made it work. One of my best friends from USNA married a USAFA grad... they met when they were both O-3s working for CENTCOM. Dual military spouses face unique challenges... getting stationed together (separate services makes this even harder), deployment cycles, training, etc. It is rough (ever rougher if kids are factored in), but like everything else, it can work.
 
You'd be surprised at the many ways you could meet someone. A friend of mine's story comes to mind:

During his Cow year as a Beast Squad Leader, one of his New Cadets wrote home to his family a lot. Almost all his letters talked about his Squad Leader in some way. After reading a few of the letters midway through Beast, the New Cadet's sister took it upon herself to search and add her brother's Squad Leader on Facebook. They chatted all through Beast and had their first date on A-Day weekend when the New Cadet's family came up for the parade. They are still together to my knowledge (2 years later).

You never know when/how you'll meet someone. :wink:
 
America's Finest said:
You'd be surprised at the many ways you could meet someone. A friend of mine's story comes to mind:

During his Cow year as a Beast Squad Leader, one of his New Cadets wrote home to his family a lot. Almost all his letters talked about his Squad Leader in some way. After reading a few of the letters midway through Beast, the New Cadet's sister took it upon herself to search and add her brother's Squad Leader on Facebook. They chatted all through Beast and had their first date on A-Day weekend when the New Cadet's family came up for the parade. They are still together to my knowledge (2 years later).

You never know when/how you'll meet someone. :wink:
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haha that's good stuff.
 
scoutpilot said:
Cadating. Friends don't let friends cadate.
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Women here at USMA absolutely hate this phrase. It is the sort of thing that gives female cadets the "trough" stigma. Yes, in most cases your fellow cadets will feel like siblings, but this is usually for people in your company or on your team. I met my bf plebe year on a club trip. We have been dating for over a year. It's actually awesome to have someone you know you can hang with when you do get time off from cadet life. As for dating at nearby colleges, it happens, but it's hard, because they cannot come and visit you in cadet area. However, I do have 2 friends who are still with the girls they cam to USMA dating on Rday. Don't let fear stop you from pursuing anything.
 
vampsoul said:
Women here at USMA absolutely hate this phrase. It is the sort of thing that gives female cadets the "trough" stigma. Yes, in most cases your fellow cadets will feel like siblings, but this is usually for people in your company or on your team. I met my bf plebe year on a club trip. We have been dating for over a year. It's actually awesome to have someone you know you can hang with when you do get time off from cadet life. As for dating at nearby colleges, it happens, but it's hard, because they cannot come and visit you in cadet area. However, I do have 2 friends who are still with the girls they cam to USMA dating on Rday. Don't let fear stop you from pursuing anything.
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Hmmm...I think you meant "trou" (short for trousers) as "trough" has a totally different meaning. We could have a whole thread on the dynamic between male and female cadets.

As for cadating...the term doesn't impose a stigma on females. The stigma exists as a separate entity, owing to the greater issue of women in the military. Cadating is a term of derision for romance at WP in general, because the structures that WP places on a relationship are ridiculous.

The other downside of cadating is the small population when dealing with an ex. Or, to use an old phrase, be careful about ****ting where you eat.
 
Ding ding ding.... or if you've dated (called it dark siding) more than once, a growing number of ex's who you can't get away from when everyone lives in the same building (as they do at CGA).
 
scoutpilot said:
Hmmm...I think you meant "trou" (short for trousers) as "trough" has a totally different meaning. We could have a whole thread on the dynamic between male and female cadets.

As for cadating...the term doesn't impose a stigma on females. The stigma exists as a separate entity, owing to the greater issue of women in the military. Cadating is a term of derision for romance at WP in general, because the structures that WP places on a relationship are ridiculous.

The other downside of cadating is the small population when dealing with an ex. Or, to use an old phrase, be careful about ****ting where you eat.
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I was using the reference to trou as an example of dumb words people use. Listen, it works both ways. A lot of girls here would never date a cadet because guy cadets have the stigma of being socially inept. All I was getting at is that you shouldn't think so hard about it. If there's a fellow cadet you really like, go for it. If you don't think you can see yourself, cadating, then outsource. I just think it is dumb to create barriers for yourself either way. I know people here who date kids across the country, in local colleges in NYC, or as close as upstairs. Everyone's different.
 
"Do what your heart tells you!" or let the hormones do the talking, if you like someone, good, if not, that's fine too....plenty of time to figure all of that stuff out.
 
vampsoul said:
I was using the reference to trou as an example of dumb words people use. Listen, it works both ways. A lot of girls here would never date a cadet because guy cadets have the stigma of being socially inept. All I was getting at is that you shouldn't think so hard about it. If there's a fellow cadet you really like, go for it. If you don't think you can see yourself, cadating, then outsource. I just think it is dumb to create barriers for yourself either way. I know people here who date kids across the country, in local colleges in NYC, or as close as upstairs. Everyone's different.
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"outsource" (bolded above by me for emphasis)

Thanks LOL. I got a good chuckle out of that. :thumb:
 
is the 2% club real? like is it true that only 2% of people who enter with an SO are able to keep them all four years?
 
I would say yes, I don't go to West Point but I have asked those who do and they say yes. However, being in college right now the stats are probably not much better if at all.....
 
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