Decisions, decisions, decisions....

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  1. underwood212

    underwood212 New Member

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    Hi everyone. I applied for both the Army ROTC and NROTC- Marine Option scholarships. I was hoping to use the scholarship at Arizona State University or one of the California State Universities. But anyway my
    question is that if I do recieve the scholarships but I turn them
    both down because I decide to attend a community college in hopes of making it to my dream school, UC Berkeley, will this affect my chances of winning the scholarship once I reapply for it before transferring to a university? Would I be able to do PLC and then switch to ROTC? Just
    been thinking a lot lately since these scholarship decisions are taking forever.

    Thanks!!!

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  2. rkrosnar

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    Decisions, Decisions, Decisions...

    Underwood212

    If I were you, I would take ROTC scholarship, instead going to a community college and try to get into Berkley. In our state, especially Harrisburg Area Community College have been having problems with their credits, transferring. I also know a youngman, who went to HACC and did not crack a book. He got a 4.0 and scholarshiped out. He transferred to 4 year colllege and was earned a ROTC and glad he did it.

    Good Luck,

    RGK
     
  3. Marist College ROTC

    Marist College ROTC Member

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    It depends on which is the bigger dream. Is it being commissioned ? Serving on active duty ? Or graduating from UC Berkeley ?
     
  4. patentesq

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    UC Berkeley has both AROTC and NROTC. Why shouldn't he just take the scholarship and later seek to tranfer to UC Berkeley? Isn't that easier than declining a scholarship and reapplying?

    underwood212, if you love UC Berkeley so much, why didn't apply this year?
     
  5. scutrules

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    Diablo Valley College is a great community college located very close to Cal Berkeley. If you work hard, you are basically guaranteed admission to Cal your Junior year of college. You are also able to attend Army ROTC while at DVC (at the Cal campus) for your first two years of college. However, I do not know if you are able to use a scholarship at DVC (then again, it is a community college so it's not very expensive).

    In my opinion, the biggest downside to attending DVD would be that while you are able to take Cal's academic courses (one per semester) you would be unable to participate in field or lab activities until you transfered to Cal.

    You can contact CPT Barnes at bbarnes@military.berkeley.edu for more information on attending DVC and transferring to Cal while participating on ROTC.
     
  6. patentesq

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    Although you may be right, it may also not necessarily be the case any more. As I understand it, UC Berkeley has basically been told to increase the percentage of admissions for the full-freight, out-of-staters because Cal is receiving less money from the State of California (out-of-staters pay double the tuition rate). If more out-of-staters gain admission, that means fewer spots for the locals. California is having to make some tough financial decisions right now, and this may affect folks attending DVC who are seeking to gain admission to Cal. This year and next will likely be the easiest years for students from out of state to gain admission. Of course, this is just my current understanding.

    There is a lot of wisdom to the proverb: "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."
     
  7. dunninla

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    to which I reply an equally sophistic "Nothing ventured, nothing gained". The rub is in understanding to which situation each proverb applies.

    It is more than twice as hard to enter Berkeley out of HS than out of JC. In SoCal, many cashed strapped families with kids close to Berkeley or UCLA admissions stats proactively choose JC and enter the Guaranteed Transfer program to UCSB, UCD, UCI, etc. Although admittance into UCLA and Berkeley is not similarly guaranteed by contract, there are better than 75% odds for a JC student with 3.7 or higher GPA being admitted to UCLA or Berkeley through competitive transfer admissions.. Compare that to the 5-10% odds for that same non-hooked applicant to UCLA or Berkeley with under 4.0 weighted out of HS. What is not as certain is the Major... many majors at UCLA/Berkeley are impacted and require 3.8 or 3.9 GPAs out of JC.
     
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    Exactly. To quote another proverb, you cannot have your cake and eat it too. It seems you need to make this choice.
     

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