Definition Recruited Athlete

Bobby, it is good that you apologized. As you can see there are a lot of parents and non-parents that participate in this exchange. These folks are not in the habit of bashing young people. You notice I didn't say "kids" 'cause you're not a kid anymore. You are a young man, an adult in training. ;o)

I want to emphasize something I learned along my way was that the "tone" of the written word is as important as the words actually on the paper. Email and blog writing is even more sensative to "tone." They hang on a fine wire between being conversational and more formal writing styles. I've always been one to be very expressive and drill down to the truth. When I switched from a more "hardcore" industry where I could do that to a "softer" industry, boy oh boy did I learn fast that when I wrote emails I had to be much more sensative to the tone I used. As I read my writing at this point I believe I've gradually gone too far the other way and sound too much like I'm lecturing. I dislike that "tone" and it is not well received either. I am working on that. Like I said, it's a fine line. Good luck and don't forget to occassionally show your "sweet side" in your relationships.
 
flieger83 said:
Hmm...

Let's see....

You're a high school student.

I'm a, wait, let me check...yes, that's correct: a senior officer with 27 years of service so far.

I think I'd advise you to NOT get used to it. There are times for "barracks language" and there are times that it is wholly inappropriate. Take a hint: this is one of those times.

I have formally reprimanded military members for their language in mixed company, and I have been known to make "old Marine's" blush on occasion. The key is to know when it is appropriate, and when it is not.

This forum: it's not.

You would do well to take the constructive criticism here as its intended: not a personal "slam" but rather as good advice. It can only bode well for your future success!

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
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Thanks, I was about to make a similar comment but I see it is not need and I think this young man now understands!
 
I have to say...

I was very impressed by this young mans "maturity" to step up and admit he'd gone a bit overboard.

A public apology is one of the most difficult tasks that can be assigned or asked and to do it openly, in a forum like this...

It speaks well of the young man. :thumb:

And I told him so in a PM.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
I agree, we have all done something we wish we could take back, nice job Bobby stepping up.


The world wide web has opportunities to be so impersonal, folks will do things they would never do face to face. Some high schoolers I do some coaching with, are so shy, you can hardly get them to speak, or have to lean is so close to hear. Yet on the social networking sites, will get in a debate on a sports subject or something and F-bomb away. To people they know. It has definately changed the dynamics of communication.
 
Bobby J, thank you for the public apology. It takes a man to step forward and apologize and I am sure everyone on this forum appreciates your gesture.

As a general comment, no one knows everything. I work with athletes and college coaches all the time and I did not know WP had a dedicated officer to work with recruited athletes. In my association with WP, the coaches recruited the athlete, the athlete always worked with the coaches, and had all their contact with the coaches. They made their official visits at the request of the coach. Once the coach said we want you to play for us,and once they had completed their file, and prior to going for thier congressional interview, the congressman or Senator received a letter from the Director of Inter-Collegiate Athletics at WP stating this candidate was a recruited athlete.

Additionally, you always have to be concerned with NCAA rules. WP has to follow the same recruiting rules as everyone else. NCAA has quite periods, dead periods, contact periods etc which everyone is suspose to abide by.

The only real difference is, WP does not have a national letter of intent signing and an athlete can back out of their comittment any time. At a regular college once you sign a national letter of intent and receive a letter from the college offering athletic financial aid and you accept and sign that latter you are locked in.

Athletic scholarships at a regular college are for one year only and renewed on an annual basis and do not have to be renewed. At WP a player I guess can be cut, I will be honest I am not sure, but at a regular college, if you are there on a scholarship, you may ride the bench, if you are not measuring up to the coachs expectations, but you will not be cut unless you violate team rules or get into some type of trouble.

I hope this information is helpful. Again Bobby thank you.
 
scout1 - I was told by a dad of a recruited athlete that the contact periods - at least in some sports - are different for the service academies. That they are actually earlier to help them accomadate the lengthy application process.
Do you know anything about this?

Also - At the service academies - recruited athletes can be cut and athletes can also quit their team. They, of course, remain 'on scholarship' as with the rest of the cadets/mids.
Frankly, I don't know why a recruited plebe would quit the team but I do know some who did quit after one or two seasons. There are no repurcussions.
 
Just_A_Mom said:
scout1 - I was told by a dad of a recruited athlete that the contact periods - at least in some sports - are different for the service academies. That they are actually earlier to help them accomadate the lengthy application process.
Do you know anything about this?

Also - At the service academies - recruited athletes can be cut and athletes can also quit their team. They, of course, remain 'on scholarship' as with the rest of the cadets/mids.
Frankly, I don't know why a recruited plebe would quit the team but I do know some who did quit after one or two seasons. There are no repurcussions.
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I left my team after my second year. It was that or flunk out. And I wanted to graduate and to serve!

Most of the IC's I know/knew that left the team did it for precisely that reason.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
flieger83 said:
I left my team after my second year. It was that or flunk out. And I wanted to graduate and to serve!

Most of the IC's I know/knew that left the team did it for precisely that reason.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
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That's the same reason I have seen people quit teams as well.
 
Just A Mom: Some sports do have different contact periods, quiet periods, and dead periods, and football for instance, they have an evaluation period in addition to the other periods or shoud I say several different times to evaluate players. Football is a little more comlicated and in some cases convoluted than many of the other sports.

As far as contact periods and earler times for the service academys, the only thing that is different for football is a regular college has 42 days of evaluation period and the service academy's have 54 days during fall evaluations. Everything else is the same. Another example that is the same is baseball. There are no special exceptions for baseball as all of the conact , quiet and dead periods are the same. Baseball,and Softball do there evaluations at showcases throughout the summer and fall. They are just not defined as evaluation periods, but fall into specific times a coach can see a player play. The service academy's are the same time frame as all of the other colleges for these sports.

As far as being cut from a service academy team, there is no debate. Everyone that attends a service academy is on scholarship. This differes greately from a regular college athletic scholarship. And yes, players do leave regular college teams, probably more so at the academy's than at a regular college. And the other comments were probably right, its probably because of the burdon of the academices, and the time away from class due to some sports road schedule. I hope this helps answer some questions. Any specific questions feel free to PM me.
 
approved recruit

My daughter was told that she was approved as an official recruit for the womens swimming. Can someone explain what that exactly means? Thanks!
 
gettingthere said:
My daughter was told that she was approved as an official recruit for the womens swimming. Can someone explain what that exactly means? Thanks!
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Why not ask Coach Wender? You could also call and speak with someone in the athletic office. For us, being an official recruit meant they flew my son up for a weekend w/ other swimmers and divers. They had several meetings and tours scheduled, as well as a football game. He stayed in the barracks with another guy on the team. The coach picked him up at the airport as well.
 
gettingthere said:
My daughter was told that she was approved as an official recruit for the womens swimming. Can someone explain what that exactly means? Thanks!
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That is great the Academy is interested in your dd. Here is the basics:

1. The coach will send your daughter a web link and ask her to open up a candidate file with USMA admissions.
2. The folks in admissions will flag her as a recruited athlete in the system.
3. She will need to qualify just like every other candidate. Academics, CFA and Medical.
4. She will need to get a nomination from local MOC. If she does not get one and they really want her...they will find one.
5. At some point, Coach will offer her an "official visit" paid for by USMA.

USMA has designated admissions staff who work with recruited athletes and are extremely helpful.

Good luck
 
Not an athlete, never recruited

Is it possible for someone to simply try out for the football team?
I have already been issued an LOA, but I have nothing to do with sports, nor have I ever had any prior football expreience, but I want to play football at West Point. How, if possible, would I go about doing this?
 
ajforce92 - You have a LOA and have had 'nothing to do with sports' ? :confused:

There are 3 options to play football at West Point:

1) D-1 Army Football team
- these are recruited athletes

2) Sprint Football
- A corps sport
- Can't weigh more the 172 lbs ( used to be called 150s)
- try-outs are during Beast and cuts are made up until the first game

3) Company Football
- intramural football between companies
- eight man football format
- no try-outs
 
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