Discipline Record

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  1. hyyt8

    hyyt8 Member

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    So, while I was trying to get a 10-day suspension expunged from my records, it turned out that it never existed in my records. Somewhere between withdrawing from the public school system and reentering it in another state they lost all records of my suspension.
    Now, I already reported this in my candidate file, which is fine, but the problem is that what we did find was a 1-day suspension that my principal and I had completely forgotten about.
    I am now currently working on getting this incident expunged from my records, but the fact remains that I have not reported it to the academy, yet, and have already submitted my personal data record. I am waiting for an incident report, which I expect to receive tomorrow, upon which receiving I will email the admissions team with the details.

    So, I have two questions:

    1) Will this go over well with the admissions board?
    As someone who values veracity, I am ashamed to say that my data record is inaccurate. I am hoping it will not be seen as dishonesty, especially next to what I did report, and since I'm correcting my mistake before my application is complete

    2) Will having your discipline record expunged have any effect on your application?
    I will, of course, continue to advance for its expungement, regardless, but I am wondering if it will be worth noting to the academy.
     
  2. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    A simple letter from the Principal indicating that you both had overlooked this 1 day suspension previously would be a big help. This would show support from a a person of authority that this was an honest error.
     
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  3. 845something

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    A single suspension is one thing in that you can show that you learned from your mistake.

    Two suspensions is starting to look like you have a character flaw. Convincing yourself that you don't have to tell the academy because you/your parents/your lawyer had it expunged is a whole other level.

    You are best to come clean, explain it all to your RC, and resolve to improve yourself and truly take responsibility for your mistakes.
     
  4. brovol

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    I would disclose everything, and then explain why you believe your problems are in the past, and that you are different now. Out of curiosity what were they for? I think if you were suspended for a fist fight in school, for example, that would be better than cheating or stealing.

    At this point, no matter what you are working on mitigating the damage done by past conduct. Thus, being as forthright as possible is the best bet.

    I am a judge, and get situations like this a lot. Those who own what they did make a much much better impression, and get far more leniency that those who don't, or who blame others. People in general want to forgive and give people second chances. They want to help. Mistakes can be character builders, and folks know that.

    It is what it is. Own it and attack the problem with honesty and explanation. I like the suggestion to have principal write letter, maybe explaining what happened, who you are, and why he/she thinks you are nevertheless worthy of an appointment.
     
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  5. hyyt8

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    Thanks for the suggestions! I really like the idea to have the principal write a letter.
    To be broad, my offenses were both verbal. I liked to imagine scenes of grandeur, some of which were construed as dangerous. :rolleyes:
    Anyways, I've certainly learned about what I'm allowed to say and not allowed to say at school.
     
  6. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    10 day suspension for a dangerous verbal statement on campus?
    wow!

    Tell your Principal to write like the wind!
     
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  7. brovol

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    Perhaps a school which is very strict on verbiage. Give warnings for bad grammar or poor Syntex.

    Sorry, couldn't help myself.
     
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  8. Letsdothis

    Letsdothis Member

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    Depends what he said......
     
  9. mike6

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    "visions of grandeur" will not get you suspended..
     
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