Diversity on Subs

Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by SamAca10, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. SamAca10

    SamAca10 Ensign - DWO

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    Out of pure curiosity, do they take gender (now that females are able) and race into consideration when they're "sub drafting"? One of my friends older brothers ended up getting voluntold to subs...
     
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    For the class of 2013, there were only 11 female sub billets. They have already been early selected as 2/c. The selection was highly competitive. So, there are no female sub "draftees"
     
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    They have to take gender into account. There are only a few officers (6, I believe) on an SSBN/SSGN. They are attempting to have female officers join the boats in pairs, due to berthing considerations, so there are only so many slots. There is significant interest among women, with more than enough candidates for the available slots.

    There is an interesting article in Undersea Warfare magazine about the process of assigning Mids from the Class of 2010 to their service selections. It has several quotes from two Mids who ended up in subs (not their first choice). http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/usw_spring_10/best_fit.html
     
  4. SamAca10

    SamAca10 Ensign - DWO

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    That's interesting...do they take race into account as well? I know what you're talking about berthing arrangements though. They started putting CG ensigns on 110' patrol boats last year, but they can only put males on them because we don't have any female chiefs on them.
     
  5. Luigi59

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    There has also been a major (alleged :rolleyes: ) scandal (not publicized of course) involving the chief of the boat of the USS Nebraska and a female USNA Mid. The chief has been fired from what I understand.

    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/...t-fired-submarine-nebraska-gold-crew-021012w/

    Not sure if this will (or should) affect the number of females coming out of USNA who want to go to the submarine fleet, but they definitely know about it in Annapolis.
     
  6. kinnem

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    ^^^ its no different than any other ship in that regard from what my retired USN buds tell me. Closer quarters maybe but that would be all.
     
  7. dunninla

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    From those several quotes, I gather that it is not a great idea to list subs as preference #2 :shake:

    Though I heard from one drafted mid at the Pointsettia Bowl last year that there isn't really much of an honorable way to bow out...you signed up to serve your country, not to go do what you thought sounded cool at age 10, or 17.
     
  8. osdad

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    E-9 + Midshipman = harassment

    E-9 + Ensign/Ltjg = fraternization + whatever else they can think of.

    Either way careers are done.
     

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