DoDMERB Medical History questions
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At 62" or 5'2" her max is 150lbs ... if she keeps active she's 10lbs under and should be fine
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Some additional information I dug up at work since it's weigh-in season for the Coast Guard. Weigh-ins are conducted on a semi-annual basis in April and October. All of the information is per the Coast Guard Weight and Body Fat Standards Program Manual.
When you're being weighed in:
"The following weight allowances shall be deducted for attire worn during weigh-ins: (a) T-shirt and gym shorts (no footwear): 1 pound; (b) T-shirt and trousers or sweatpants (no footwear): 2 pounds; COMDTINST M1020.8H 2-4 (c) Tropical uniform or organizational clothing (no footwear): 3 pounds; (d) Operational Dress Uniform (no footwear): 4 pounds; (e) Any other attire (no footwear): no deduction taken."
If you're taped, this is what they measure:
"Body Fat Calculations. Body fat estimation charts are included in enclosure (2). Circumference values (CV) are calculated from the formulas below and compared with the member’s height to determine estimated body fat percentage. Round calculated results of the CV down to the nearest half-inch. a. Male CV = Abdomen – Neck (in inches) b. Female CV = Waist + Buttocks – Neck (in inches)"
I've also attached the minimum/maximum weight requirements based on height and the min/max body fat percentages. The body fat percentages are the only part of the program based on gender/age. Typically, a lot of males are taped because the weight part is not gender specific.
If you have any questions or feel like you need anymore information, let me know and I'll see what I can find. Also, this problem doesn't go away once you commission. I have friends that struggle every 6 months to make weight but as an officer, you're supposed to be an example and lead your people. That goes for fitness, weight, you're ability to do your job, your leadership skills, etc. Yes, different body types make it difficult but the goal is to find a healthy way to make sure you're in compliance.
When you're being weighed in:
"The following weight allowances shall be deducted for attire worn during weigh-ins: (a) T-shirt and gym shorts (no footwear): 1 pound; (b) T-shirt and trousers or sweatpants (no footwear): 2 pounds; COMDTINST M1020.8H 2-4 (c) Tropical uniform or organizational clothing (no footwear): 3 pounds; (d) Operational Dress Uniform (no footwear): 4 pounds; (e) Any other attire (no footwear): no deduction taken."
If you're taped, this is what they measure:
"Body Fat Calculations. Body fat estimation charts are included in enclosure (2). Circumference values (CV) are calculated from the formulas below and compared with the member’s height to determine estimated body fat percentage. Round calculated results of the CV down to the nearest half-inch. a. Male CV = Abdomen – Neck (in inches) b. Female CV = Waist + Buttocks – Neck (in inches)"
I've also attached the minimum/maximum weight requirements based on height and the min/max body fat percentages. The body fat percentages are the only part of the program based on gender/age. Typically, a lot of males are taped because the weight part is not gender specific.
If you have any questions or feel like you need anymore information, let me know and I'll see what I can find. Also, this problem doesn't go away once you commission. I have friends that struggle every 6 months to make weight but as an officer, you're supposed to be an example and lead your people. That goes for fitness, weight, you're ability to do your job, your leadership skills, etc. Yes, different body types make it difficult but the goal is to find a healthy way to make sure you're in compliance.
My DS who is challenged by the minimum as well cut back on heavy cardio (no more track/xc), focused on weights and was able to put 5lbs on in 2 months. I can't say what the reasoning is at CGA but low weight becomes an issue when you start to pile on equipment and then ask a recruit to distance march or perform a task wearing heavy gear. My knowledge is from Army + fire department so I am guessing CGA has similar kinds of needs in their recruits.
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Per the manual, "All members who fall below the minimum screening weight shall be referred for a medical evaluation." Now, does this mean on R-Day that they'll be removed in the same way as being overweight? My gut tells me no but I don't have an official answer for you. As LITS said, you spend much of the first week in the clinic for evaluations and I'm sure being underweight would raise several questions for multiple reasons. One, you are extremely physically active during swab summer and, for some people, this means weight is loss. If you're already under, it may not be healthy for you to fully participate until you're at a more moderate level. Two, there is always the concerns of having an eating disorder. I'm not saying your DD does, just merely pointing it out as a possible medical train of thought. It does happen in the military. My best guess would be at 6 pounds underweight, the clinic would want to monitor your daughter closely. Thankfully, your daughter also had roughly eight months to gain the weight in a healthy manner so maybe she should talk to a family doctor or nutritionist.
As a side note in terms of her being "extremely busy," I can understand how eating habits may be affected. When I'm stressed or really busy, I tend to not eat or skip a meal here or there, especially if the option is between food or sleep. It was worse my senior year of high school but I've worked at being better about monitoring it. In fact, the non-rated personnel who were serving food on the line on my ship during my first tour would notice if I missed a meal or didn't eat as much, and would put as much food on my plate as possible to force me to make up for it during the next meal. That being said, I've also never been anywhere close to being in danger of being underweight or overweight. Even if she eats multiple small meals a day, that is better than nothing.
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If my DD can do 50 PU 70 SU and run 12:55. But is 15 pounds overweight is it hopeless.
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Thank you for all the advice. Although I want her to improve on her running time, maybe she could concentrate on weight training and gaining more muscle for now. I understand the danger of being underweight when carrying all that weight. Not fun. She definitely eats well when she does and definitely doesn't have any eating disorder (and I understand that concern too), but she just has high metabolism and has been skinny all her life. For my DD to maintain Military minimum, it's going to be a challenge. She barely reached it a few times but Never lasts. Her grandmother could never gain weight either even though she tried. (5'6" and 110lb in college) Wished I had that problem but it must've skipped a generation. Hahaha... I'll have my DD take this more seriously and eat more and often.
Mine is over by 15lbs but clears the tape measurement. Look above. Someone put the tape requirements if they don't make weight. Some people just have different body types. Mine is broad and muscular but his BMI is fine.
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See my first post on this page, I included the height and weight chart that also has the taping maximums towards the bottom of the page. It's based on gender, age and measurements.
For women, the taping equation is : Female Circumference Value = Waist + Buttocks – Neck (in inches). So you would just use a tape measure and measure the circumference of each of those and then subtract the neck circumference from (waist + butt) circumference. If your daughter is below the maximum range, she's good to go. If not, something to work on. A lot of people are taped, it is not outside the norm for people to be taped, especially when they're involved in sports like football, rugby, hockey, power lifting, etc. For women under 30, your max body fat percentage is 32%.
Son of a friend was dis-enrolled at Thanksgiving of his last year at the Academy for weight (possibly in T&F08's class?). He was told academically and militarily he was fine, but they would not reconsider. If they will lower the boom that far along, why would they let someone in who might be a weight risk, only to lose that investment in a cadet later? Better to remove them sooner. So, you know the standards. You (or your offspring) need to meet and maintain them.
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Possibly, I think I may remember which classmate you're talking about. I also had a classmate dis-enrolled two days before graduation for not being able to make weight standards. TWO DAYS. Four years of hard work at the Academy and 1 year as a part of the CGAS program all down the drain because of weight.
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Is the any way I can download the information in your prior post.
page, I included the height and weight chart that also has the taping maximums towards the bottom of the page. It's based on gender, age and measurements.
For women, the taping equation is : Female Circumference Value = Waist + Buttocks – Neck (in inches). So you would just use a tape measure and measure the circumference of each of those and then subtract the neck circumference from (waist + butt) circumference. If your daughter is below the maximum range, she's good to go. If not, something to work on. A lot of people are taped, it is not outside the norm for people to be taped, especially when they're involved in sports like football, rugby, hockey, power lifting, etc. For women under 30, your max body fat percentage is 32%.[/QUOTE]
page, I included the height and weight chart that also has the taping maximums towards the bottom of the page. It's based on gender, age and measurements.
For women, the taping equation is : Female Circumference Value = Waist + Buttocks – Neck (in inches). So you would just use a tape measure and measure the circumference of each of those and then subtract the neck circumference from (waist + butt) circumference. If your daughter is below the maximum range, she's good to go. If not, something to work on. A lot of people are taped, it is not outside the norm for people to be taped, especially when they're involved in sports like football, rugby, hockey, power lifting, etc. For women under 30, your max body fat percentage is 32%.[/QUOTE]
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You should just be able to click on the "attached file" right below my initial post if you're looking for the chart. Once you click on it, it should automatically download as a PDF. If that doesn't work, you can google "Coast Guard Body Fat and Weight Standards." The manual should pop up and the information you want is in Enclosure 1 on the 47th page of the overall file.
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These people who were disenrolled for not meeting the weight standards - is there a timeframe to get back into compliance, they didn't meet it within the timeframe, and then they were cut loose? I know there is no room for error on R-Day, but I thought I read that after R-Day, at those twice-a-year weigh-ins, that a cadet will be reweighed/remeasured in a few days/weeks, and if found not in compliance then, at that time they will be let go.
This is a struggle for my DD. She flirts around that upper edge - and I'm not sure if eating in a rushed caf setting is going to have her trim down or pack it on...my female cousin who was an officer in the air force for 20 years had the same recurring struggle.
This is a struggle for my DD. She flirts around that upper edge - and I'm not sure if eating in a rushed caf setting is going to have her trim down or pack it on...my female cousin who was an officer in the air force for 20 years had the same recurring struggle.
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There's a remedial program.
My HS senior daughter has a 20lb weight swing from cross country to basketball seasons each year. She luckily falls within the ranges, but I do send her to school with a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter that she keeps in her locker since she is very busy and can't skip meals.