DODMERB question

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  1. user1

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    After completing my DODMERB exams recently, I found out that there was a question on the DODMERB questionnaire that asked about any past alcohol or drug use. Because I was so busy with school work and nomination applications, my mom volunteered to do the questionnaire for me. I'm positive she had no knowledge that I drank and smoked pot a few times throughout high school, and I'm pretty sure her answers to these questions reflected this. I don't want to be untruthful on the exams, and I wanted to know if there was any way to change these answers. Any information would be appreciated
     
  2. proudofmyboy

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    Looks like you are seriously hiding with screen name and undetermined sex. I think you know exactly what you need to do. First of all, the application process is yours and yours alone to complete. You state the medical form was filled out by mom because you were "too busy". Not buying the BS. It does not take long to fill out. You are feeling the guilt of what you did and did not want to "lie" on the med form. Mate you have done what my generation calls "screwed the pooch". You need to man or women up and ensure that your entire application reflects your illegal drug use and underage drinking. There is an Honor Code and right now, you have the opportunity to correct it. Please do so. Failure will come back to haunt you and a breach of honor/integrity is unacceptable as a commissioned officer in the US Military. I know this is tough to hear, but if you do not correct this, I and others on this Forum will hope that a SA is not in your future.
     
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    How do I go about correcting the issue? Thank you for the reply
     
  4. proudofmyboy

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    https://dodmerb.tricare.osd.mil/Content/APPLICANT REFERENCE DOCUMENT.pdf

    ^^^^First off, please read the guide that is in place on the DoDMERB website, paying particular note to the highlighted green section.^^^^


    I recommend including your disgression as follows:
    1) Look at the questions and see which ones pertain to drugs/alcohol.

    2) In a Word document, create first a header with your Name, SSN and Date of Birth (ensure it is correct, as SSN is used to tie your application to you, and not someone else with your same name), and "DoDMERB Health History Answers Revision", all on 3 separate lines.

    3) Below that heading, write the numbers for the answers you will be discussing (so, if questions 34, 35, and 36 are about marijuana and alcohol, write "34-36") do this for each question that you are changing the answer to (every question is about a different type of drug/alcohol, so label your responses accordingly).

    4) Type up the CORRECT answers for each question (do not hold any information back about duration/time of use/frequency, etc.)

    5) Create a line for your signature, a witness's signature, likely your parent(s), and a space for the date

    6) Print this page out 3 times, and SIGN AND DATE EACH ONE with a PEN.

    7) CALL DoDMERB directly, stating that you have such revisions to make, but only CALL after you fully type out your responses
    ....follow the procedure (roughly) for changes to your medical status (i.e. injury after exam, etc.). Be ready to fax the information at soonest availability



    This is the most professional way to note changes/corrections, and have them still be medically/legally binding.


    Did you disclose this information on your applications? If you didn't, then it is no longer an error on your parents. That would be you not being honest with yourself.




    Regards,

    DS of Account Holder, USNA Class of 2020 appointment recipient



    P.S. Withholding information from your parents will not make the drug/alcohol use go away. Denial, whether willful or by misinformation, will not be helpful



    May god have mercy on your soul
     
  5. Stealth_81

    Stealth_81 Super Moderator Moderator Founding Member

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    A bit over the top for a DoDMERB thread, wouldn't you say?

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  6. proudofmyboy

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    Not your typical DoDMERB thread. DS has a strong moral compass. I think he just wanted to stress that falsifying documents is unacceptable, could destroy any chance of a SA appointment, and the importance of coming clean with his/her parents. I think it was more of a wake up call than anything else.
     
  7. Stealth_81

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    But it really is a typical thread. I couldn't even try to count how many threads that I've seen over the years regarding this same situation. DoDMERB questionnaire said no drinking or drugs but the truth was different. It happens every year. Moral judgements are not for us to make.

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  8. proudofmyboy

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    Well, our mistake...Sorry for that..Sad though..
     
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  9. KPEngineer

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    By saying "May God have mercy on your soul" aren't they in essence saying that the moral judgement is God's and not ours to make?
     
  10. KPEngineer

    KPEngineer Eternal Father ...

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    Man/Woman up and correct the error ... the chips will fall where will. Learn a valuable lesson and remember it as you move on in life.

    There is more than one errors to this scenario that should be avoided in the future.
    1. Drug use (by anyone) and alcohol use (by a minor). We don't need to go any further on that one, I think you agree those were not the preferred choices.
    2a. Letting your Mom fill out your paperwork for you. The DODMERB questionnaire is part of the application process. If you are too busy to do it yourself then you are too busy to apply. Are you really though? To paraphrase LTGEN Hal Moore ... "What aren't you doing that you should be and what are you doing that you shouldn't be?
    2b. Realizing you had a lot on your plate you decided to delegate some effort and let Mom fill out the paperwork for you. Often a good management decision but you didn't do a quality check of her work and error slipped through calling in to the question the validity of the whole thing ... bad management practice.
    3. Now you have a conflict (assumedly) between your application and your DODMERB questionnaire. Leaving it as is would a) be sloppy and b) dishonest. Since you know that at least one entity has factually inaccurate information allowing it to continue with that information while hoping they don't find out would be dishonest and were at the Academy, an honor violation.

    This is actually a tremendous opportunity to demonstrate some maturity and prove just how bad do you want to get in. Even if your application implodes this year, don't lose heart. Doing the right thing has a way of compounding on itself. I myself had negative information in my application that did not reflect highly on me. So much so that the Academy never even acknowledged my application. I didn't let it stop me from applying (and being admitted) the following year.
     
  11. proudofmyboy

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    My son and I agree..Sorta what he was getting at..He wanted to let the candidate know that this is a Honor issue..and to man up. His comment was his way of saying Seriously, you will have to deal with the consequences of your actions..It is all about Accountability.
     
  12. user1

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    So you think that even if I correct the answers, I still may be screwed for applying to the academy this year? The DoDMERB is the only part of my application that has been submitted so far, I'm not sure if that makes a difference. Thank you for all the advice
     
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  13. proudofmyboy

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    You would have had to complete at least 50% of your app for the DoDMERB process to start. Not sure what you have done, but your physical is good for two years, so it still must be corrected. What can we do to help?
     
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    I think you have done all you can, I just need to call and sort it out. Do you have any idea of what I can expect after I complete the process you outlined for me?
     
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    Hit up KPEngineer for insight. Be honest and mature as you follow this through. Let your sincerity and integrity shine. Take your lumps, good, bad or indifferent. Follow through with your app and hope for the best. If not selected this year, re-apply. Do not give up. Sorry we were rough on you. Life lessons can be hard to swallow. Best of luck.
     
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  16. T_Bordeau13

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    Can I ask what happened and if you actually did call Dodmerb to sort this out?
     
  17. KP Eng

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    I bet he had his mom call them because he was too drunk.
     
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    This is exactly the type of individual who would have a very hard time at a service academy. This post is so uptight and condescending, I would not want this person to be in an authority role much less a commissioned officer at all. The issue at hand it not that big of a deal, and this poster comes around and blows it far out of proportion, mentioning a plea for mercy from God. It would be very interesting to see how this person confronts the mind games and scenarios that are pushed down your throat during plebe summer. Sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen to me. If I was a subordinate to this person I definitely would not respect him or her based on the way that is written, rank or no rank it doesn't matter. Leadership, in military environments, is often about dealing with the different issues which arise at the lowest level possible in the most efficient manner possible and only escalating things when there is a concrete necessity to do so.
     
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    how do I get a medical waiver and plus I'm having trouble login to my dodmerb Tricare account.
     
  20. kpskilegac

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    Request for medical waiver must come from the academy to DODMERB on your behalf.
     

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