does JROTC help?

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  1. joshuaskemp

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    :confused: Hey you guys I heard JROTC doesn't help. I had a lot of leadership roles in JROTC and roles outside JROTC. My question is, Is it worth putting leadership roles from JROTC on your application? I heard nasty rumors about this and I was trying to make sure. For, example JROTC shows what type of person you are and how you are disciplined. Does the AFA cares about this or not?


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  2. nuensis

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    JROTC helps. Especially if you have leadership roles; it is a leadership program, after all. Any academy would definitely "care" about JROTC.

    See if you can get a JROTC nomination from your instructor, too. You may be eligible for one.
     
  3. AFAcandidate

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    From what I know JROTC counts as any other organization you are a part of equally. Its good to be in JROTC since there IS more opportunity to attain a leadership position in JROTC rather than NHS or student council.
     
  4. joshuaskemp

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    Thanks

    Thanks that helps a lot! I was just worried
     
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    Thanks

    Thanks for the Info. I was being cautious about things:biggrin:
     
  6. LiveGold

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    If you are in a good unit, JROTC, CAP, Sea Cadets etc. are great. Leadership positions are helpful on applications. I would not advertise that you participated in those programs when you get to the academy though.
     
  7. joshuaskemp

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    I heard...

    Yeah I read stories about that!
     
  8. crair70

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    JROTC will help- just as any other strong leadership program will where you are dedicated and take on leadership responsibilities. This came up for my DS while at SS last year. MANY kids had JROTC and they lead him to believe they had a huge advantage in obtaining an appointment because of it. My Ds HS does not have a JROTC program, therefore he was not involved but has been a class officer for 3 years and the only 4 year student government member at his school. His ALO said in his opinion his student government/ officer positions would carry as much weight as JROTC... if not more.

    Point here is to get involved and take on a leadership role in whatever you participate in- sports, student government, clubs, JROTC. AND I have read on this forum many times that is is better to get really involved in 1 or 2 things (consistency) instead of many smaller roles in clubs and so on. Admissions can see through the fluff EC that are there to just fill up a resume. Do what you enjoy and stick with it!
     
  9. joshuaskemp

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  10. navy2016

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    How disciplined are JROTC cadets? varies
    How disciplined are hs students? varies

    The point of having JROTC is being part of a group and serving actively in a position if you have one.
    It will help but not more than being an Eagle scout, team captain, president of a club, etc

    Nobody knows exactly which ec's count more but you need to be a leader in some of them.
    Having JROTC will help but it is certainly not some magic bullet that will secure an appointment.

    Personally my two main Ec's were Boy Scouts (Eagle) and AF JROTC (C/Major) plus cross country and track (LOA to USNA and USMMA).
     
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    Ok

    Okaey I understand some things are worth more then the other.Thanks for the info.
     
  12. m1ndfr34k117

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    JROTC helps...if you do well in the program. It's like anything else you do; just doing it gets you almost nowhere with the Academy. BUT, if you excel in it, whatever IT may be, then you will look good.
    For example, just being in JROTC doesn't help much if at all. However, if you were a commander of a team in JROTC or a cadet officer, that's a much different story. Those positions will be weighted as leadership positions. Corps commander would be like class president, deputy-corps commander would be like class vice-president, etc. The key to being competitive is doing WELL in whatever you do; doesn't matter what it is. Of course, some things look slightly better than others, but you get the idea.

    As others have said, JROTC provides the most opportunities for leadership than most other programs and in my personal opinion, JROTC leadership is better than class government leadership. That may only be true for my school though, I can't speak for others. Also, talk to your SASI (if your AFJROTC) or your senior instructor about attaining a nomination through JROTC. Some units can give you a nomination which saves you from competing with others for a congressional nomination (I believe).

    Hope this helps! :D I'm a JROTC kid too and I've heard the rumors. I got stressed out thinking all my work was down the drain, but don't worry! You're good to go!
     
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    JROTC helps...if you do well in the program. It's like anything else you do; just doing it gets you almost nowhere with the Academy. BUT, if you excel in it, whatever IT may be, then you will look good.
    For example, just being in JROTC doesn't help much if at all. However, if you were a commander of a team in JROTC or a cadet officer, that's a much different story. Those positions will be weighted as leadership positions. Corps commander would be like class president, deputy-corps commander would be like class vice-president, etc. The key to being competitive is doing WELL in whatever you do; doesn't matter what it is. Of course, some things look slightly better than others, but you get the idea.

    As others have said, JROTC provides the most opportunities for leadership than most other programs and in my personal opinion, JROTC leadership is better than class government leadership. That may only be true for my school though, I can't speak for others. Also, talk to your SASI (if you're a AFJROTC cadet) or your senior instructor about attaining a nomination through JROTC. Some units can give you a nomination which saves you from competing with others for a congressional nomination (I believe).

    Hope this helps! :D I'm a JROTC kid too and I've heard the rumors. I got stressed out thinking all my work was down the drain, but don't worry! You're good to go!
     
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    Civil Air Patrol +1
     
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    I think that having a leadership position in JROTC carries more weight than just participating in the class. As others have stated it probably depends on the unit you are a member of as well.

    DS has been a memeber of our AFJROTC for 4 years and all 4 years they have held the "distinguished unit" status. He has had multiple officer positions including Unit Commander and has attended Cadet Officer Leadership School three consecutive years.
     
  16. Pima

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    JROTC is great, but be realistic.

    PAR = 60% of WCS
    EC (JROTC) = 20% of WCS

    If JROTC = academic confliction for more rigorous classes, re-think it.

    PAR: Academics 60%
    EC: JROTC, sports, BSA, NHS. SC. etc 20%

    Do the math.

    Remember the AFA is known in the AF as the Little Engineering School in the Rockies. Academics means a lot.
     
  17. Christcorp

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    Remember to: You should be a member of JrROTC, CAP, Scouts, Band, Chess, Spanish, Football, Soccer, Class government, or anything else........ BECAUSE YOU WANT TO!!! If you are taking any class, EC, sport, etc... specifically as fodder to help your academy application or college application, then I believe your priorities are mixed up.

    If you participate in activities that you really enjoy, you will naturally do better in those activities than those that you're doing just to impress a review board.

    I am not saying that the OP or ANY of the posters on this subject involved with these activities are or are not involved with them strictly for college application or because they truly have a passion for it. That's not my/our business or concern. Only you need to know. But as others have said, the academy and colleges want to see leadership and long term involvement/commitment. In other words, I'll give more value to an individual who has been in band for 4-5 years and worked their way up to drum major, than I will to an individual who has been involved in CAP, JrROTC, etc... for the last 2 years with very little leadership accomplishments.

    The original question was: "Does JrROTC help"? It depends what you DO with/in JrROTC. It doesn't help at all if it's just one of many activities you've been involved in just to look good. Colleges and the academies can tell by the number of years involved and positions help, whether you are doing it because you like it or not.

    I think the underlying question; that no one wants to really ask, is: "Do you get MORE POINTS for having JrROTC, CAP, Scouts, etc... than OTHER activities". The answer is: "Your points aren't because of the activity you're doing, but rather YOUR INVOLVEMENT in the activity".
     

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