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  1. Romad

    Romad Member

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    Son had his ALO meet yesterday - 06 Deputy CC of the AANG Combat Comm Group. Went very well and he's finished with his package. Total Elapsed Time - 25 days. PHWEWWWWWW. Still, not a bad process if you're prepped for it. :biggrin:

    A BIG Thanks to all the contributors here who provided us with such great info and advice!!!

    :beer1:

    Now, we WAIT.

    Best Regards

    Romad
     
  2. Pima

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    I think your wait isn't done just yet...you still have the MOC noms still.

    This is when the rollercoaster ride begins.

    Good luck.
     
  3. Romad

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    Done with those too! :shake:

    3 MOC's (already met with one)

    1 Presidential (received)

    1 VP

    Not as long a wait on those, Nov - Dec - March and the mass mailing is a lonnnnng time from now...

    Best Regards
     
  4. matt123456

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    Congrats! I still haven't done anything yet because I never get the time to since I have to work to buy food for the family, then I cook and clean. -_- Very tedious.

    Good luck and great job getting done really early! :biggrin:
     
  5. Romad

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    Sounds as if you are already taking on full adult responsibilities. I understand that the academy looks at situations such as yours as demonstrable proof of maturity. Small bites... Just a little at a time goes a long way. I know that there are a lot of great people on this forum who would be more then willing to help out - including me -.

    Good Luck and best regards

    Romad
     
  6. Christcorp

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    Matt, hang in there. Also; make sure you bring your family situation up to your ALO. Believe it or not, this is a perfect example of "DIVERSITY". There are a lot of people who want to think of diversity simply as race, gender, and ethnic. The air force thinks beyond that. Working to support family; single parent; first person in family to apply to college; live in rural America; exceptional athletes; socioeconomic; lived in numerous countries; etc... These are only a small part of what diversity it.

    Basically, I ask each and every candidate one similar question....... "What makes you DIFFERENT than everybody else who's applying". And that's a difficult question for Wyoming kids when LITERALLY 90%+ of the population is white. However, Wyoming but it's own nature is diverse. Least populated state in the Country: "560,000 people". Largest city is only 55,000 people. Very rural. Lot of children also work on family ranches and property. etc... So definitely let your ALO know, as well as in the application where you can mention it, all the things that make you different and diverse.

    The reason America has been such a great country for such a long time, has been because of it's diversity. Starting with families from all over the world immigrating. But it continues on with culture, language, individual responsibility, etc... We want our military to be just as diverse. It makes it a better military. Of course, no one believes in lowering the standards for the sake of diversity. The ALO's and the Academy work very hard to ensure that we maintain the high standards. But the more exposure individuals have with other diversities, the better all those involved become. So don't use your family situation as an excuse or a crux for why things can't be done. Instead, use them as a way to make you a better and stronger individual. And realize that such diversity is a good thing. Best of luck to you. Mike.....
     
  7. Romad

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    Got the official "File Complete" postcard yesterday. It was a tiny 3 x 5 card and a very low key end to this yearlong process, but it sure looked GOOD to us!

    Best Regards

    Romad
     
  8. Pima

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    Congrats on getting it completed this early.

    I am shocked that your MOC's have already completed their selection. I never heard of slates being completed this early. Our DS's MOCs had a deadline date of 10/15 and the interview wasn't held until Jan 5th, with the slate released 1/28. His other MOC(Cong)also did not submit the slate until end of Jan. The earliest was Dec 23rd.
     
  9. Romad

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    No MOC's yet, although we've applied to all three. He's received a Presidential category nom (we know - unlimited noms - max 100 appointments) but it puts him into the game early and I think that's helpful. I still book his odds at 1 in 4 though. Pretty brutal this year. He may have cool his jets at Auburn for a year and re-apply. But HEY! It's the commission that's the main goal. Lots of ways to get there.

    Best
     
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  10. Pima

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    The MOC process can be stressful especially if they "talk" or share the wealth.

    Remember to keep updating his packet. They will not review the entire packet after the 1st board, but will revisit the cat. you updated for his WCS...i.e. selected Captain of BB will have them look at his ECs again, but not his PAR. Higher SAT will have them look at his PAR, but not his ECs.

    Every point matters. Every point counts. Especially this yr. when they have announced the reduction in appointments.

    Also remember that AFROTC board operates differently than AFA. AFROTC does not superscore like AFA. They take the best SITTING, they do not mix and match scores to make a new SAT/ACT score. I would not want anyone assuming that the stats they submit to AFA will be mirrored for AFROTC.

    You have the best frame of mind, it is about being commissioned that should be your goal, and until you exhaust every option, the ball will remain in your court.

    Good luck
     
  11. Romad

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    Great advice as always!

    I fully concur with you on keeping the package updated, We've been doing so every time something changes - election to Senior Council rep, his university grades over the summer (separate from the school year dual enrollment transcripts), ACT, SAT redo's - He's going to keep taking them till the end to get whatever improvement he can - especially with the ROTC method of test scoring -. Anything for a few extra points here and there.

    We've also been maintaining contact with the MOC Academy reps and updating them as well since we applied so early. Nice folks, very willing to work with you. I just got a query from one to see if we were complete - we apparently have a hard time filling some slots from our region for a variety of reasons.

    It's kinda ironic that if he doesn't get selected this cycle, he'll actually enter Auburn just a few credits shy of being a Junior due to all of the college he's taken since he was a HS Sophomore. I wish I had had that kind of focus when I was that age :rolleyes:

    Best

    Romad
     
  12. Pima

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    Where are you from that they have a hard time filling slots? Obviously if they do, I would assume sharing the wealth will not be an issue and would expect at least 2 MOCs.

    I would check with Auburn, plus, if he goes AFROTC, that will not be the situation due to the system. He would need SFT and that occurs sophomore yr summer, so on the best scenario to be commissioned it will be 3 yrs. AFROTC scholarship is like the AFA, they utilize it as a manpower needs tool, and if he gets HSSP he would be expected to commission 2016. They have Lead Labs and their own path for meeting the SFT board.

    Traditionally, kids can enter with credits, and test out of required classes, but believe it or not colleges are businesses. They have little fine print regarding class mandates. Usually it will be a course(s) that they must take at that college for the major. The class usually has a pre-req, and is only offered 1x a yr. Hence, you may have the credits to enter as a jr., but because the major has this, you now are stuck staying. DS is walking out with a dual major, a minor and a core concentration because he entered with so many credits on top of interning on the Hill, plus ROTC.

    DS did jump start (attend CC 1/2 day, HS 1/2 day), and had almost every AP you could think of, I believe his college gave him 33 credits. He still didn't graduate early, will graduate 2012. His major required X classes with Y pre-reqs. that must be taken at the school. All it did was allow him to opt out of the 250 kids class size and go into smaller class sizes for upper classmen.

    Again talk to admissions, it varies school to school, and the det too.

    Our DD, not ROTC entered with 16 credits, she too jumped into smaller classes, but will not graduate early because the school rigged the semester for her major and req. courses being offered only 1x a yr. with pre-reqs being offered 1x a yr.
     
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  13. Romad

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    All super advice!

    We're in Lower Alabama in a small town in a very rural area. Most of the students graduating from our local HS who plan on going into the military enlist either in the Army or Army Guard. We've never had a a student appointed to any of the SAs in recent living memory with the exception of one who got a slot at the USNA's Prep School. The town is lucky to have a well funded (by the paper and pulp industry), city owned University Center that offers courses from big (and small) name Alabama post-secondary institutions which is where my son attends for half the day.

    He's very fortunate that my Wife (his step-mother) who is a senior university administrator has guided him on the education aspects since he was young. Much of his academic success has been due to her patient tutelage and guidance while I've worked on the sports, leadership, and ECs. He's just an exceptional young person as virtually all who are at this level are - such as your children.

    We're just proud that he's chosen service to the country over promising private career opportunities and I'm confident that he'll succeed in whatever path he follows to reach that goal...

    Maybe I'll even dust off my old uniform, jump boots, and beret for his commissioning! (gawd I hope I still fit in them!:biggrin:)

    Best
     
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  14. Blackbird

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    Romad, well done to you and your wife on raising, teaching, guiding, cheering, and now releasing what is clearly a smart, focused, and determined young man.
     
  15. raimius

    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    If you are anywhere near Ft. Rucker and want some help or opinions, drop me a note.
     
  16. Mikeandcris

    Mikeandcris Parents of 2014 Grad and F-15 Pilot

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    Congrats

    Congrats Romad on your son's accomplishments. This is now our third time in the cycle.....applicant, C4C and now C3C. It seems that the time between cycles is measured in weeks instead of a year. Good luck to your son and keep us posted.
     
  17. Romad

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    Thanks!

    and right back at you...

    BEST
     
  18. Romad

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    Will do and thanks to you too raimius, I'm actually a good deal more familiar with the Army way than most USAF types since I was a JTAC and we were the Army's Air Force and vice versa. Our selection phase is (and has been since the old 1st SOW days) at Hurbie and we've visited Rucker many times.

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  19. Romad

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    Guess the classic observation of "we watch ourselves age as our chldren grow" applies here. *sigh* :rolleyes: Time really does accelerate as the years pass doesn't it? Thanks for the words and will do.

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