Double Majors/Minors

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  1. jdalv2

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    Hey everyone,

    This question applies both for Navy and Air Force ROTC:

    I applied as a technical major for both NROTC and AFROTC. Hypothetically, once I get the scholarship and get to college, will I be allowed to double major or pick up a minor (or several minors) with the Navy or Air Force's $$$.

    For example, let's say I'm an AF cadet majoring in Mathematics. Will I be able to pick up another major in Economics and a minor in Arabic or some other language under my scholarship? Or, will I have to pay for the classes not related to my technical major on my own?

    Also, all of this is being asked under the assumption that I will be graduating in 4 years and will be taking a fairly average, 15-20 credit course load.

    Thank you in advance for your help,

    Josh
     
  2. FloridaDad

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    You will be allowed to do one major, and a military science minor. Don't under estimate how much time your ROTC commitments will take out of your week.
     
  3. Pima

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    Unless things have changed, your minor for the AFROTC does not need to be military science.
     
  4. Jcleppe

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    This comes from an AROTC perspective.

    You can do a double major if you like, you can minor in whatever you like, some are doing their major and a double minor, one in Military Science, and one in another disipline.

    My son has a friend in his Frat that is in NROTC that is a double major in Electrical and Mechanical Engineering. Yes, his head is buried in books most of the time, but it can be done.

    I would double check with your schools of choice to make sure what they will advise regarding double majors.

    I would agree with Florida Dad, ROTC will take up more time then you think it will, time management will be very important.
     
  5. cdh50193

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    How often to AFROTC cadets meet a week for PT? I heard it was less than Army or Navy.

    And what do you mean by minor in military science? Is that a required in some way?
     
  6. Pima

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    AFROTC meets as often as NROTC or AROTC...2x a week.

    Now, if you score high enough on the PFT, the det can waive this and allow you to do your own PT program. However, come next semester and you don't make it, you will be required to attend with the rest of the Corp.

    This is a double edge sword, because ROTC cadets will get jobs within the det/bn. Our DS scored high enough as a freshman in the fall to not be required. However, because he did, his spring semester job as a freshman was PT leader, so he had to do attend anyway.

    Military science ranges, it is like saying Management, it could be textile Management or Business Organization Management. Both are management, but have different core classes.

    The only AFROTC req that I know of as a scholarship recipient is foreign language. I believe it is 9 or 12 credits. I know it is at least 9. You can take French I, German I and Latin I, you do not need to have it all in one language.

    Again this is why it becomes difficult with a minor out of your field because electives are used to fill the squares. Engineering at you college may not require a foreign language at all for majors or minors, but AFROTC does, that means somewhere along the line you need to get that req. for ROTC on top of the reqs for the school.
     
  7. vareporter

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    Some schools, such as the University of Virginia, where my daughter is an engineering major, have flat-rate tuition prices. One can take as many credits as they like for the same tuition price as 12 credits. If that is the case, it shouldn't matter because the scholarship is for the same dollar amount no matter what.
     
  8. vareporter

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    Oh, and engineering majors at UVa are not required to take English comp and most of the other core university courses. So that actually frees up a lot of time to take classes for a minor. However, my daughter has found it EXTREMELY difficult to try to double major with an engineering degree. Pretty much the only way to do it is spending an extra year at school or attending multiple summer sessions.
     
  9. Jcleppe

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    cdh50193,

    AROTC has PT 3 times a week. In batallions like my son's, if you do not score at least 80 points on each section of the AFPT you are put on remedial which means you will have PT 5 days a week. a MS3 will most likely have PT 5 days a week starting their second semester to get prepared for LDAC. If you choose to joing Ranger Challenge you will also fill those off days with PT.

    It really just depends on the batallion and what your involved in. In any case if your in AROTC be ready for a lot of PT.
     
  10. Pima

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    This is true, some colleges will not charge you more for the amount of credits you take. Some colleges will allow you to test out (AP scores) from basic freshman classes.

    It is up to the school to determine.

    However, if you read the fine print of the AFROTC scholarship foreign language is required regardless of tech or non-tech majors to maintain the scholarship.

    You need to plot your academic career accordingly.

    IMHO, you are putting the cart before the horse. Come summer when you attend orientation, you will meet with an academic advisor. Believe it or not they will plot out your college career regarding classes needed to get your major and minor. AT THAT PT inform them that for your AFROTC scholarship you need at least 9 credits.

    Every college is different regarding mandatory classes, nobody here can give you true advice since nobody here knows the college you will be attending. One college can say 4 on an AP fulfills their reqs., another college can say 3.

    Talk to the school.

    If you have not found this site, I suggest you go on and at ask req issues for incoming students (not just ROTC). www.collegeconfidential.com

    Go onto the college side and you will see they list almost every college in the US. Post the question of "testing out" or placement to get a better feel for what you will be facing academically.
     
  11. jdalv2

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    So will the Air Force and Navy physically not pay for the classes that are not related to your major?

    A lot of discussion on this topic has been devoted to talking about time commitments but I'm trying to find out whats possible, not, necessarily, what is entirely practical.

    Thank you
     
  12. Pima

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    The AF will pay for your college education, majors/minors do not matter.

    You want International Relations as your major and Physics as your minor, the AF will pay for it if you have a scholarship.

    You want to major in Brit Lit and minor in physical education, and are on scholarship, then go for it.

    They demand 9 credits for foreign language, they demand a X GPA. Read the fine print for the scholarship because it may or may not change yr to yr.

    For our DS it was 2.8 and 9 credits in foreign language.

    AGAIN, the AFROTC program will not over ride the reqs that the school has determined to get the degree. All AFROTC cares about is you academically fulfill the squares for the degree determined by the school and their scholarship.


    Have a party...if you want to major in Interior design as a scholarship recipient while minoring in French, they don't care for the AF as long as you fulfill their requirements for the AF scholarship.

    No offense, but how much research have you done regarding this question? Did you talk to your ALO? The det? Or did you just google and found this forum?

    We are here for any and every candidate, we are here for you, if you don't want to hear practicality than throw us all in the circular filing cabinet (garbage can).

    If you are willing to hear what is practical as a college student in ROTC, than don't get defensive and read what we are stating.

    AGAIN, ROTC is only one aspect. To get your degree the college makes the decision, not ROTC. To get your commission ROTC makes that decision.
     
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