Drug Waiver

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  1. FalconAF

    FalconAF Member

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    I have experimented with MJ twice in my past 2 years ago and deeply regret it. I will never do it again. I am going to report it as I dont want to gain admision based off lies. When I report my usage on the form, what will happen? Will I get a call? Will I have more forms? What are the chances of getting a waiver? If I am granted said waiver, how will it effect my chances of appointment and my career in the AF? Thanks for the help!
     
  2. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    For each person, "what happens then..." is different.

    I would imagine (don't know, can only speculate based upon past experiences) that you're going to be asked to answer a bunch of questions: "When, where, WHY, how often" and others.

    After you've completely come clean, and answered all questions, then USAFA will sit back and decide one of two things:

    a. Young "kid" experimented; this is not uncommon, peer group pressure, etc...etc...no harm done, stopped and hasn't done it again.
    b. Chronic user, lying to us bigger than life, high risk type.

    In my ALO career, I have seen many candidates "fess up" about MJ experimentation. I have not seen one (of mine) that was prevented from attending the academy because of prior experimentation.

    I do know an ALO that had a candidate denied admission because of past "experimentation." I called him just before I typed this to get it correct:

    a. MJ experimentation...tried it in JrHS..."a couple of times" then again in HS, pretty much once/twice per year.
    b. Tried coke "once, didn't like it."
    c. Tried X "made me sick, not cool"
    d. Liked Spice but since it's illegal in the military, stopped using it.

    See a problem with all that?

    Come clean, be open and honest...my OPINION is that you'll be fine.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  3. FalconAF

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    Thanks for the reply. Typically, what does the academy classify as experimentation and what effect does this have on a candidates application? Am I going to need super high act scores and leadership activities to offset this?
     
  4. Non Ducor Duco

    Non Ducor Duco I am not led, I lead

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    I believe 1-3 is considered experimentation, more than that is not.
     
  5. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Even as an ALO, I can't answer the question re: "What constitutes experimentation." Only USAFA/RRS can answer this question.

    My advice: if you did it, report it and that's that. NEVER do it again. Do NOT associate with folks that still do use/experiment because that can be "tainting" to you. "He did it once/twice/etc., but quit..but hangs with the drug crowd."

    Se how that could be a problem?

    Report it, and press on...do a great job this year in school, focus on all the GOOD, and things will work out.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  6. FalconAF

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    I just submitted my forms and wrote my essays on drug use. I made it EXTREMELY clear that I will never touch anything again. Ever. Anyone know how long it will take to get a drug waiver?
     
  7. AFrpaso

    AFrpaso USAFA '17

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    I reported my MJ use now from nearly over 4 years ago when I enlisted and when I applied to the AFA. I reported a much higher number than what's been mentioned so far and still received a waiver. When I did submit the form explaining the use I made sure to be as specific as possible and as clear as possible about that entire time of my life including what lessons I learned and what future intentions I had.

    Of course, I had a few other things going for me like a Top Secret clearance which was granted during my enlistment, the maturity gained from being a few years removed from all the trouble, and my success in a military environment.

    The bottom line has already been mentioned, every case is different. Be completely truthful and let them make a decision. I spent a lot of time trying to do research to see if I should even bother applying. Don't forget, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Good luck.
     

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