DS received letter from WP today....

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  1. WienerDog

    WienerDog West Point Class of 2018

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    The letter stated he is qualified. It then went on to inform him of the doing away with rolling admissions. He will hear sometime in the near the February 26 timeframe.

    He has the nom and is DODMERB qualified. What does this letter mean, if anything?
     
  2. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    It means that his file has been sent through the admissions committee to be evaluated. The admissions committee determined that your DS is qualified. Title 10 USC states that only qualified candidates can be offered admission. Now, many more candidates will be deemed qualified than will receive an appointment but it is an important step. All you can do now is wait for the end of February to see if your DS receives an appointment. Good luck:smile:
     
  3. BigNick

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    Everyone should realize that having a "Nom" is critical but your chances of getting into WP greatly depends on what kind of nomination.

    In short- if you are the designated Primary nomination by your MOC and you are 3Qd you are going to get an Appointment (acceptance) providing some other negative information does not surface (arrest, DUI, bad injury or sickness, bad grades in last semester, etc). When you get that P-nom you are -in effect - just competing with yourself.

    If you do not have a P-nom (the majority of candidates do not have a P-nom) then you will be placed on the National Waiting List (NWL)along with several hundred other candidates with 3Q and a nomination. From this list a minimum (by law) of 150 are chosen based on the Whole Candidate score. The majority of people on this list WILL NOT get an offer. They are totally qualified but not the best qualified.

    So - to answer your question directly - if you have a P-Nom you are probably going to get an offer - if not you will get an offer only if you are one of the highest scoring candidates on the NWL.
     
  4. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    I think you left out competitive nominations. Most members of congress use the competitive nomination. First the candidates compete against the other candidates in their congressional district (or state for senatorial noms) who have been found to be qualified. The qualified candidate with the highest whole candidate score will receive the vacancy they were nominated for (BFE). All other qualified candidates nominated in that congressional district will be placed on the national waiting list and compete as BigNick stated.
     
  5. BigNick

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    You are technically correct. When the MOC nominates several people (up to 10 people per vacancy) and does not designate one as the P-Nom (many congressmenn do this) then WP is allowed - in effect - to determine the P-Nom. So even in this case there is a P-Nom. The only difference is that some MOCs let WP determine who in their District should get the P-Nom.
     
  6. WienerDog

    WienerDog West Point Class of 2018

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    Just hoping his WCS is high enough for WP to choose him. We'll see.I know the MOC nominated 13 when he could have nominated 20. According to FFR, there were 6 that were "competitive". Hopefully, SLS attendance may help in this case. However, the outcome I am confident the m ost qualified candidate will be chosen.
     
  7. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    I haven't heard it that way. This is from AR 210-26, it lists three congressional nomination methods:
     
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    WienerDog West Point Class of 2018

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    Thanks great info.
     
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    My son received the same letter from WP the other day. Should we take this to mean he is anything more than what the letter says, "qualified?" Not sure how his MOC ranked or didn't rank nominations. Letter definitely said not to expect to hear anything before Feb.26th.
     
  10. tug_boat

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    It is, what it is.

    I hate using that, "It is, what it is." But thats what it is, notifying you they have received your DS info, it has passed through 3 reviews, he is 3Q'd w/nom. Its communication from WP admin. not what you are hoping to receive but communication. Your DS is progressing.

    Four more weeks of agony.

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
  11. tug_boat

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    Follow up.

    A few things may happen by now and Feb 26.

    1. QNS - qualified not selected

    2. Placed on NWL - your on the National Waiting Listing

    3. Placed on NWL, QNS

    4. Offered an Appointment to WP

    Good luck, really!


    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
  12. WienerDog

    WienerDog West Point Class of 2018

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    Got great news from FFR today.....extremely optimistic!
     
  13. dcarmy17

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    Does admissions work on Saturdays?
     
  14. WienerDog

    WienerDog West Point Class of 2018

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    Wouldnt venture to say they do, but I am certainly not sure.
     
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    AR 210-26 says that, "up to 150 candidates may be offered an appointment."

    Does this mean that only 150 candidates on the NWL will be offered an appointment? I was lead to believe that a minimum of 150 will be selected from the NWL?
     
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    The office is closed but that is not to say that the RCs and other admissions folks aren't working on files.
     
  17. buff81

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    No - read the next section:
    d. Additional appointments. If it is determined that, upon the admission of a new class, the number of cadets at the Academy will fall below the number authorized, the Secretary of the Army may, in the proportions indicated in the statute, fill vacancies by nominating additional cadets from qualified candidates designated as alternates and from qualified candidates who competed for nominations and are recommended and found qualified by the Academic Board. An additional appointment under this section may not replace an appointment otherwise authorized by law (10 USC 4343).

    The US Code -Title 10 explains it better.
    WP will appoint 150 from the NWL by WCS. These 150 must be those with Congressional noms.
    The rest of the class will be filled from the NWL without regard to WCS at a ratio of 3/4 with Congressional noms to 1/4 with Service-Connected noms.
     
  18. dcarmy17

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    What was the good news you got? If you don't mind sharing.
     
  19. WienerDog

    WienerDog West Point Class of 2018

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    Nothing about appointments, but about placement and rankings from MOC.
     
  20. hunter21

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    Hi WienerDog, did you ask your FFR about your DS's standing in your MOC, or did they just tell you? I was thinking about asking mine about my standing.
     

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