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Discussion in 'Coast Guard Academy - USCGA' started by MaritimeGirl11, Dec 19, 2006.

  1. MaritimeGirl11

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    I was wondering do you know if canidates that get accepted to NAPS onlly find out during rolling admission or can they find out during Early Action?.
     
  2. justawife

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    The AFA send out their invites to the Prep school and Civ prep schools in March. In general they go to folks who have some small problem--lower test scores, maybe a weak grade in math or chem but would be a strong cadet. Or a football player/lacrosse player/hockey goalie who need the extra year of academics. Also they like to bring in URM and women.
     
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    Okay. Thanks!
     
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    Oh so if you got an alternate status than you are still legible for a prep school correct?
     
  5. MaritimeGirl11

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    I guess so. but I havn't gotten anything yet! I still need to get my waivered cleared.
     
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    I am sure you are eligible for prep or CGRIT off the alternate list. However I think you are less likely to get this kind of offer unless you are: a minority male; a female; or a recruited athlete.
     
  7. MaritimeGirl11

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    I'm minority Female! They told me i'll know in Feb 2007. I just have to wait some more. This is frustrating...
     
  8. bossf51

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    Hang in there! My son didn't hear until late March! But it can come at any time.
     
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    man that would be soooo scary waiting that long!

    Were his test scores not high enough or what was it?
     
  10. bossf51

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    No that's when a lot of kids hear. He had 1400 SAT on the old test.
     
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    I am not sure about Div I-AA, but for Div I-A, the NCAA frowns heavily on prep school scholarships for recruited athletes. I would suspect it is the same for USCGA. USAFA got in trouble a couple of years ago for abusing this. Present USNA guidelines are that the percentage of recruited athletes at the various prep schools cannot exceed the percentage of recruited athletes in the Academy student body as a whole.
     
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    I would doubt for Div III that it makes any difference at all.

    A friend told me that every one of this year's USAFA football team starters were prep school alums. Seems a bit extreme, but I've no reason to not believe him.
     
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    There are usually something like 200 athletes at USMAPS for example. Look at the rosters for the men's and women's basketball teams, football, baseball etc. You'll see what I mean.
     
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    I could be wrong, but the way I understand it is this:
    NAPS and USMAPS are actually a year of post graduate high school. Recruited athletes that need to be redshirted (for various reasons) can go and play here without losing a year of NCAA eligilility.
    If an athlete goes to a civilian prep school that is a junior college (MMI or NMMI) they lose a year of eligibility.

    About getting chosen for prep schools - I have known of several white males who are not recruited athletes at NMMI or MMI.
    In fact, as far as women go, NAPS is 14% women while the USNA brigade is about 20% women and the CGA is about 30% women.

    Keep in mind the whole point of Academy Prep or civil prep schools is to give an otherwise highly qualified candidate another year of necessary academics. I seriously doubt a candidate with high SAT scores, a high class rank, who is also strong in math and science would get a prep school offer, recruited athlete or not.
     
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    I did. Quickly. 5 minutes. So the numbers may not be exact, but they are close. The official WP athletics website. men's basketball-6/20, women's basketball-4/17, baseball-3/30, football approx 70/240 (approximately 20 of 50 of those earning letters). These numbers are in line with the 20% or so at NAPS. Divide the above totals by 4 and one gets 21 per year. Double it for attrition and other sports and one is still in the neighborhood of 20% athletes for the total MAPS student body. This is also completely discounting MAPS walk-ons, which for football can be quite a few.

    I repeat from above. SA prep schools are under close NCAA scrutiny and recruited athlete percentages must be the same as those of the sponsoring SA. They are not there being "red shirted". They are there to gain qualifying academic eligibility.

    Additionally, a blue chip athlete at one of the prep schools has absolutely no SA obligation upon graduation and retains full NCAA eligibility. They can, and do, walk.
     
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    Agree. While not stastically significant, I am very familiar with 7 past and present NAPSters. 1 athlete and, additionally, 1 woman. Unfortunately, none of the seven were minorities.
     
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    Hog, of all people, I am surprised that you are so gullible. A very quick perusal of the USAFA football website indicates that 8/20 seniors are from the AFA prep school. They don't list starters but a quick overview of the leaders in each of the statistical categories (a pretty good indicator of starters) is that about one third are from the prep school.
     
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    Do Div III athletes lose a year of eligibility when transferring to a Div I school?
    If they do, NCAA is probably concerned about that athlete's background.
    I honestly don't know and am not about to dig through all the NCAA rules and regulations to find out.
     
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    The SA prep schools are an extremely viable method of becoming prepared for the rigors of the academic loads at the academys. The Admissions Board completes the selection process from the normal SA application. They select women, athletes, minorities, and white males. The typical candidate, athletes included, will have one or more of the following characteristics:
    -High grades/Low SATs
    -High SATs/Low grades
    -Average grades/Good leadership potential
    -High grades/Weak leadership potential
    -Away from academics for a year or more
    -No chemistry or physics
     
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    69, I'll quickly defer to you on these topics and confess that mine are mostly hearsay. However the person who told me of the AF situation is a 30 year AF retiree with 2 sons @ USAFA. So I was inclined to believe he was informed.

    I confess to gullibility. In fact every 02 Feb, I'm even inclined to believe my own shadow. :yllol: :shake:

    Many thanks for debunking mine and others urban ... or in this case SA mythology. :thumb: You and a couple other pro's ought to start an SA Snopes. Lord knows there's enuff bunk floating around out there about this complex process.

    All that said, I remain a bit skeptical that the NAPS and foundation programs are not used substantially for assisting in recruiting and preparing special interest groups, notably athletes. Perhaps I've just heard too much of Fork Union, Masanutten (sp?), Oak Hill, etc.
     
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