english and math only

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  1. Vista123

    Vista123 Member

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    My son who is a high school JR just received his scores for the Sept 2011 act

    English 34
    Math 33
    Reading 25
    Science 26
    writing plus English 32
    writing 9

    I know that USNA only looks at English and math but even those dont seem high enough. (and reading and science are ridiculously low) are they be high enough for the summer seminar, get a nom, get in?
    he has the Ec and sports but he is from a competitiveness area.
     
  2. navy2016

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    34 and 33 (I believe that translates to a 760 and 740 SAT) are definitely well above the average for acceptance (based on data from various college applying info) websites. Besides, he is just a JR; he has time to do better. Since he did not do so well with the writing, reading, and science, I would suggest he retake the test for a higher composite to increase his odds of getting into backup civilian colleges. To get into summer seminar, it is tricky. I was accepted to 3 SS's but only attend NASS. I have heard that USNA invites candidates for NASS based on qualification AND geographic diversity. Other words, some very qualified candidates from an area that has a large representation at USNA may not be accepted to NASS while someone who is just marginal for acceptance from a under-represented area does get in.

    NASS really is not that big of a deal. I enjoyed being there but the reality is that NASS is a summer program. The put you through activities that simulate what academy is like on a light level. You heard about regimental life. That is why I am more excited to be attending CVW than NASS (going Dec 1-2).

    How competitive to get a nom? it depends on where you live. My congressman's office can usually give about 35 noms (10 for each of the 3 large academies, 5 for USMMA). I was told he has 25-40 applicants each year for those 35 noms. Therefore, my area is definitely not competitive in comparison to where 200+ candidates apply for the 35 noms.
     
  3. jennyp

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    The 33 and 34 are definitely top tier scores. Talking to kids, both juniors and seniors who took the test 9/10 revealed they all felt very pressured to get the science done. My daughter had a 30 on the science as a junior and said it was much harder this time around and came out with a 28.

    I would caution you to not focus only on test scores. THe ones that count are in great shape for any SA; As a junior, he can re-take easily, but I wouldn't stress over it. Focus on the leadership, physical fitness, etc....the rest of the package. Good Luck?
     
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    Hey there,

    I just got a LOA with a 34M and a 33E. 24 and 26 are not ridiculously low. You should be proud of your DS, he has good test scores.Don't worry about summer seminar/ noms if this is something that he wants to do he'll work it out.
     
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    Just to clarify and better answer your questions: why are you concerned when 1) you know Navy only looks at math and science, 2) you know people with the same and even lower scores have not only attended NASS, but 3) have received LOAs and been appointed?
     
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    If it were only that simple....

    Good scores are not the "be all, end all". That is the reason for worry. Too many things are out of ones control, hence the constant ruminating about the things that do fall within the sphere of personal control.

    Good luck all. :thumb:
     
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    Fishing for a compliment?

    C'mon, how can you possibly think English 34 and Math 33 are not "high enough"?

    Really?

    I think you know very well that those are excellent scores and are much more than competitive.
     
  8. Blackbird

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    Unless your DS scored perfect on the ACT, why wouldn't he take again? Since he is a junior, he has something like 8 more times that he can take it before the application deadline next year.
     
  9. navy2016

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    Unless you are an Asian Tiger mother that expects 36's.
     
  10. Vista123

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    Act scores

    To addres your commemts. I know of two people in our area, one with similar scores and one that had higher scores and were both 3qd, nomed and did not get appointments. Also it seems as if the MOC packets that I looked at looked for more than just two scores. They asked for the composit, wich is lower for my son and im trying to figure out how that will affect things. I do know my son has quite a bit of time to take new act tests, however i do know, statistics indicate very little change on act retests. My son is just starting the process and we weren't TOTALY clear on which scores are accepted. The poster at 2:33 wrote science and math. Some place else it says math and verbal. We are trying to weed through it. I do know that someone got an LOA with those scores but I dont know if they were also an athlete or a minority or had an incredibly high class rank or gpa. We, like everyone else are just seeking more information. I'm sorry if some thought we were fishing but what could be gained by fishing on a message board? Im Sincerely Very sorry if people were offended that we used this sight to gather info In an innaproprite way or a way that appeared boastful.
     
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